Bob ?You can't make a silk purse out of sow's ear.¹ Take a look at this. It may change your mind. http://www.darkroomagic.com/temp/Stonehenge.pdf Or maybe you¹re right, but one needs the imagination to see the goods in the negative! Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht http://www.darkroomagic.com On 2006-12-18 19:52, "afterswift@xxxxxxx" <afterswift@xxxxxxx> wrote: > All good points. You can't make a silk purse out of sow's ear Dep't. The real > goods must be on the negative. So we're back to the guy behind the camera > again. The buck stops with him. There comes a time when practice ends and > we're post-graduate. I call it the 'take-off moment." We continue to learn, > but it's from experience and what we learn is incidental and en passant. We're > actually into doing real work. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 6:43 AM > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: The Quest and My Heresy?? > >> >Again, *in some cases*, the original image just acts as a canvas and > it's the post-processing that creates the >> >WOW factor. >> > >> >There are various excellent examples in Tim Rudman's books where the > straight prints look (sorry Tim !) just >> >boring but the final result is of another magnitude. > > I have a completely different take on this. If a straight print is > boring then no amount of manipulation is going to turn that negative > into a great photo. Just producing a striking print is not enought. > There has to be someting there to start with. That's the reason that I > don't tone or do anything else to my prints. If a negative can't speak > for itself then nothing is going to help it and that's the end of it. > > Copying others is a good learning technique but not something that one > wants to keep doing. I am reminded of the composer Engelbert > Humperdinck who venerated the work of Wagner. Except for his opera > Hansel and Gretel he comes off as a second rate, imitation Wagner. > There are too many two bit Ansel Adams in photography today. To cite > only one example. > > Jerry > ============================================================================== > ==============================To > unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org <//www.freelists.org> > and logon to your account > (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and > unsubscribe from there. > > > Check out the new AOL > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http > %3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol> . Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the > web, free AOL Mail and more. >