What work I have seen of yours Tim would be good no matter how it was printed. Would it have a different impact done differently? sure Could that impact be changed based on printing techiques? Again no doubt about it. Would changing the way you planned on printing it change how you took the photo in the first place? Maybe, and using printing techniques to create on paper what the artists sees in the mind is also important to the artist. But just as one can create a fine photo from a full frame and one from a cropped section of an image, a fine image also can be created from a single negative using tons of different printing techniques. All good images. All that say something, they just say something different in different ways. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: The Quest and My Heresy?? Thank you Claudio ;-) I was just reading this thread and debating whether to jump in and disagree, but you did it for me. I entirely agree that often the process really makes the image. I usually consider the straight print as simply a starting point for the artwork I plan to make and I usually 'see' it in more or les finished form when I take it, knowing that printed another way it would hold little interest. This works for me (I hope) because I do see it in a particular way at the taking. It would not necessarily work I think if a poor image was subsequently altered to try and make a silk purse out of the proverbial sow's ear. Post processing techniques can have a powerful effect on colour, tonal relationships, bringing certain tones into dominance or the reverse and these issues are important in the way an image speaks to the viewer. Tim http://www.worldoflithprinting.com http://www.thegalleryonthegreen.co.uk/events/coldsnap.html -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Bonavolta Sent: 15 December 2006 15:52 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: The Quest and My Heresy?? ----- Message d'origine ----- De: "Mark Blackwell" <mblackwell1958@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:57:24 -0600 Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: The Quest and My Heresy?? À: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
How its processed should not even be something that enters consideration of the viewer. They could care less. Is the image interesting, say something, make a powerful statement, trigger an emotional response, or any of a number of other WOW factors? If so the image works. If not it doesn't. A particular techinque almost never makes or breaks an image. You might like one with the techinque a little better than the other, and you might improve something with this or that, but for the most part its like make up on a beautiful woman. It just enhances the beauty thats already there. Put make up on an ugly
woman and you still have an ugly woman. Again, *in some cases*, the original image just acts as a canvas and it's the post-processing that creates the WOW factor. There are various excellent examples in Tim Rudman's books where the straight prints look (sorry Tim !) just boring but the final result is of another magnitude. That's the same for the japanese photographer Adrienne mentionned: that's the way he clinically describes these urban landscapes to make us feel unconfortable. In this case, it's not only post-processing (eventual masking technique, ...) but also pre-processing (choice of equipment, point if view and lighting) Will these images have the same impact taken "normally" ? I doubt it. Claudio Bonavolta http://www.bonavolta.ch ====================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.====================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.
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