Troth the refill kits work well but it depends on how the print head is constructed. I believe Cris said she heard you can fry your printer with the kits - which is true in a way. If your printer has the print heads built into the cartridge (most HP printers do) then all you fry is the cartridge (usually by being too aggressive with the syringe) but if your printer has a fixed print head (like some epsons) and you refill the cartridge in such a way that it leaks you fry the whole printer. And that is another reason to buy printer specific refills because on HP injets (and others) you are essentially replacing the part of the printer that is most prone to wear (the print head which even on the wonderfull dot matrix does wear out). "Refurbished" refill cartridges are pretty much like used cars in that sense. Don mentioned that you can often buy a printer for less than the refill cartridge. Don I have done this myself and yes it works - it also helps to have a backup printer because they do fail and when they do it is when you most need it (the resume - the report - the (well we have all been there). --- ~OoO~ <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I believe the refill units that you fill yourself > actually work better = > than some of the pre-filled generics (at least from > what I've read). = > Problem is, even the so-called "experts" that do the > reviews and lab = > tests with these products have said that its always > very messy. Once it = > actually filled and printing, most work better than > the pre-filled. I'm = > curious if anyone here has actually tried the kits > for refilling your = > own cartridges, and what the results were. > > ---Troth > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Cris > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:28 AM > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: Inkjet cartridges > > I always heard that you'd kill your printer if you > re-filled the = > cartridges yourself.=20 > I've never used anything but the brand - but I would > have figured if = > they were re-done by a company, they would have been > better than filling = > them yourself. hmmm!!=20 > Cris > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Judith Tramayne=20 > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:52 PM > Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: Inkjet cartridges > > > Will using cheap ink break your printer? No. Could > it? Yes. It's=20 > like smoking... might catch up with you, might not. > Ok... maybe=20 > not the best comparison, but you know what I mean. > ;o) > ---Troth > > __________ > Hmmmmmm -- well I am going to toss something else > out at you.=20 > Depends on what you use your printer for. I don't > print photos=20 > using my printer -- simple b/w pages. > > Also dot matrix printers are less expensive and some > at=20 > throw-away prices. Meaning you can buy the printer > for less=20 > than what it would cost you to buy 2 additional > cartridges of=20 > branded ink. > > I also have a HP printer and I asked the specialist > in the next=20 > town who sells refurbished black ink cartridges and > he said the=20 > branded ones have less ink in them than what he puts > in. I can=20 > attest to that fact because I got twice the number > of copies=20 > from his generic cartridges than HP's cartridges. > > I don't think the places like Tori mentioned would > continue to=20 > stay in business or the one I originally used online > if they=20 > didn't sell good ink in their generic or reused > cartridges. > > But we all have opinions -- my HP has been going > strong for 7=20 > years with the **cheaper** ink in it for the last 4 > years. > > And yes I smoke also (LOL) > > Judith > > > > -- > <Please delete this line and everything below.> > > To unsub or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > > -- > <Please delete this line and everything below.> > > To unsub or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > > "A box of rain will ease the pain and love will see you through." Robert Hunter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/