The last 6 months my eyes have been stinging at night just before bedtime, its as if I had been peeling onions. The only thing that eases it is splashing cold water in. I thought it was just old age. E.W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JESSE LIVINGSTON" <fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Silversolder > Gents, > > We were discussing and cussing the advisability of silver soldering leaded > steels so I took it upon myself to experiment with some 12L14 7/32" > round > stock. Ground the ends square on two pieces and silver soldered them > together in a butt joint. When cool, I stuck one end in my vise (vice in > Old Blighty and Oz) and proceeded to hammer the protruding end to see how > far I could bend it before it broke. Got it bent about 30 to 45 degrees > before it broke in the joint. Then took some 1018 steel rod and tried the > same test. It broke at about the same number of degrees (estimated). I > then ground two pieces of 12L14 at 45° angle, butted them together and > soldered that joint. Bent it the same way and it bent a few degrees more > before it too broke in the joint. From these primitive tests I would say > that the 12L14 held as well as the 1018 alloy did. Possibly other leaded > alloys than 12L14 might not hold silver solder as well, but I doubt it. > > I would post photos, but no way to do so here on "modeleng." I wonder if > I > could put them on "Photobucket" and anyone who wanted to do so could > access > the test results? I will check that out tomorrow, but eyes getting tired > now so will hit the sack soon. Gonna have to quit getting up before 5AM > maybe? Actually it is a "dry eye" problem so I will stick in some > artificial tears to ease the burning sensation. Hummmmmm, I don't recall > having this problem 50 years ago. [:>) > > Jesse the Red Neck Tennesseean > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.