Jesse We need a password. Lee I guess you do need one, I thought the site was viewable by anyone without a password. Try jml777 and see if that one will work for you blokes. Dang, I wish we could post photos to the modeleng site! Jesse MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.