At 02:05 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >Paul: Anyone who still uses the meaningless term "global warming" has >NOT examined 'all sides' of the issue. > >Eric: How so? Is "global warming" de trop? Is "Woman-Made Climate >Change" to be preferred? Should one eschew the "greenhouse effect" in >favor of the "White House effect"? Seriously what's the issue here? the issue here is that 'global warming' is a meaningless term. myth: the earth has warmed up between 0.8 and 1 degree F in the last century more accurate assessment: X = what WAS some kind of weighted average of all KNOWN temperature sampling from a bunch of different points on the Earth 100 years ago, Y = what is NOW a HIGHLY technically calculated average, based on much more "accurate" temperature measuring devices and a much more voluminous amount of data X-Y = < 1. This is NOT global warming. This is amazingly stable. The ERROR alone of switching from something which could only arguably be said to be accurate to 1 degree (the thermometers of days of old) and today's measuring devices, which are probably at least accurate to a tenth of a degree is by itself, enough to account for the full RISE in 'global temperature" In MANY places, the OPPOSITE 'effects' of global warming are seen: the temperature has gone down, water levels have gone up, and cities, which account for a large amount of temperature measurements and have man-made temperature inflation because of the amount of material that absorbs and stores heat -- thus making them hotter than the actual 'temperature' are not able to be adequately adjusted to reflect any kind of real temperature in those places. All this muddle actually makes temperature measurement, collection and number crunching completely invalid for any real analysis to conclude "THE EARTH IS WARMING UP" More than 95% of the CO2 in the atmosphere is from NATURAL sources (i.e. not man-made) Climate change is primarily influenced by water vapour, NOT CO2 levels. The sentence "global warming is caused by increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere" is nonsense. The term 'global warming' is a scare tactic to make people behave in a certain way. Anyone who actually studies the data available would be foolish to believe in such at thing and 'believe' it you must, because there's no REASON to agree with it. Paul ########## Paul Stone pas@xxxxxxxx Kingsville, ON, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html