Carl, I accept the point, made by both Allen and yourself, that we cannot know the number of hours and minutes that Christ's spirit lay in paradise. I therefore withdraw my comment regarding "72 hours." As regards the three days and three nights, I will have another read of the site that Robert directed us to, as you reminded me. Neville. Carl Felland <cfelland@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, On this point I defer to the author Robert cited back when we discussed this earlier http://midnightcryministries.com/ThreeDays.htm. While this argument addresses the 72 hour understanding, I believe that it may also address Allen's understanding. And again, rather than taking Matt. 12: 40 and forcing all the rest of Scripture to "fit," as I did in the not so distant past, I am hoping that we can better understand the Scripture as a whole through this discussion. The Sign of the Prophet Jonas Wednesday Crucifixion adherents believe that the "sign of the prophet Jonah" was the precise amount of time Jesus was in the tomb--72 hours. However, this position ignores one crucial fact: no one witnessed the precise time of Jesus' resurrection. How could the precise time of Jesus' resurrection be a sign to that generation of Jews if no one was there to record that time? The Jews of that generation would abide by Deuteronomy 19:15 which says, "A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." Without those witnesses, the precise time of Jesus' resurrection could not be a sign to that generation of Jews. Although Luke quotes Jesus as referring to the "sign of Jonas," or sign of Jonah, and as saying "for as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites," He never mentions the "three days and three nights." This omission is excellent evidence that the precise amount of time Jonah was in the fish is not essential to the sign of Jonah. The precise time Jonah was in the fish could not possibly have been a sign to the Ninevites, since neither Jonah nor the Ninevites would have had any possible way to determine or know the exact amount of time Jonah was in the fish. Although no one witnessed the moment of Jesus' resurrection, there were witnesses to something else. After His resurrection, Jesus explained what these people were witnesses to: "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things" (Luke 24:45-48). Numerous scriptures confirm that the apostles were witnesses that Jesus died and was resurrected. This is what is important, not some precise moment of time. Rather than a specific time that no one even witnessed, the sign of the prophet Jonah was the truth of Jesus' resurrection from the dead that has resulted in the repentance and salvation of millions of people. Carl --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos