j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: To everyone else: I appologize. Here I am in the middle of one of those Christian/Catholic arguements that have no place on this forum. To make it worse, I even complained when others did it before me. Sorry everyone. There is no need to apologize, since it was me that started this thread, remember? I did not set out to "prove" that Saul of Tarsus was the evil one who sows the tares amongst the wheat, nor to "prove" that it was 'Paul' and not Simon Peter (as claimed) who started the Roman Catholic Church. I just wanted to share with you all what was to me an enormous revelation, that came out of the blue, and to encourage you all to think about it for yourselves, with open mind and heart. Having said that, I suppose that we ought to concentrate more on the geocentric issues again. Any more thoughts on the "comet smashers," for instance? Do you think it makes a difference whether the universe is heliocentric or geocentric for these latest NASA claims? Neville. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail