[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
- From: "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:31 -0500
Hi ja,
Since your answer was "Anything is possible for God except for violating
his own word." and since giving someone the ability to be infallible
on religious matters does not violate His Word, I'll take it that you
are logically concluding "yes" to my question, i.e. that it is possible
God has given a human today the ability to always be right when speaking
on matters of religious faith. Did I follow your logic?
But since the Pope is a human, he could logically be one of the
persons, except you say it is inconceivable that God is giving this gift
to the Popes, because you believe the Popes have erred.
So, the next question is whether it is possible you have erred and the
Popes are right. Can you answer this simple question. The question is
whether this is "possible", not whether it is so or not. Or are you
claiming you are infallible?
(You have brought up the Catholic question, as has Neville by his
outburst the other day by challenging 2000 year old consistent Catholic
teachings. I'm just following it thru, until Neville acuses me of
somehow initiating this and cuts me off as he did in the past when I
followed up his comments).
Nick.
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From: j a [mailto:ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:23 PM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
I like logic questions so I'll take a stab at it. Anything is possible
for God except for violating his own word. I take it your pursuit of
this question is to convince others that the Pope could be infallible in
his pronouncements. While it is concievable that God might help someone
along on occassion in what they might say to someone, it is
inconcievable that God is giving this gift to the Popes because they
have erred so much in the past and rule over a church so steeped in
bogus doctrine.
Now don't go off asking me to defend the catholic bogus doctrine claim,
I state it because that is what most any non-catholic christian thinks
of catholicism. So why would anyone holding that opinion, be convinced
that the popes are infallible simply because it could be possible?
If it were true that the popes were infallible then most non-catholic
christians would probably be catholics because the catholic church would
be a vastly different place. It would adhere to the teaching as found
only in the bible, because God would never violate his own word.
Therfore, the popes are not infallible.
Has any pope ever uttered a God inspired word? Everytime they quote
scripture, just like any other person.
Anyway, thats my logic on that question. Please don't let this start the
catholic/non-catholic arguements again. This was only to address the
logic involved in the question.
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville,
Is this a question you don't know the answer to or a question
you just won't answer because you know where the logic then leads.
Please be honest.
Can almighty God do this today? I asked if it is "possible".
Can the God who created the universe also do this?
Regards,
Nick.
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From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:59 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
This is not a question that I can answer.
Regards,
Neville.
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sure.
Is it possible God has given a human living today the
ability to always be right when speaking on matters of religious faith.
Regards,
Nick.
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