[duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 17:42:06 +0100

Hi Jack,

You CANNOT delete the last embosser, even if you have deleted 5 more
beforehand.  That issue has been addressed with a better warning. 

George.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> Sent: 01 June 2004 17:33
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> 
> I don't know, as it is the only system I have. I'll have to 
> re-install everything, and then try again, or some upt the 
> courage to delete the entries via regedit. I am reluctant to 
> do this, as if the system doesn't boot, I don't have a 
> monitor, let alone requisite help--well who needs a monitor 
> anyway!! Perhaps this is not even a win98 issue. You can 
> delete all embossers, but when you re-initialize DBT they're 
> all still there.
> 
> Jack
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:21 AM
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> 
> 
> > Jack,
> >
> > I've been hearing about some trouble removing embossers; I 
> perhaps hadn't
> > picked up the detail that this is with Windows 98 specifically.
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:22 PM
> > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> >
> > Will do.
> >
> > Did I mention it seems impossible to delete embossers under 
> win98. I don't
> > know what implications this has, as I haven't one.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:41 AM
> > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jack,
> > >
> > > Open a file in Word.  For safety, do a File: Save As and 
> save it as
> > > something else.  Having done that, go to Tools, Options, 
> select the
> > > Security Tab where you can give it a memorable password.  
> Close the
> > > file, and re-open it again, to prove to yourself that it 
> does actually
> > > require a password.
> > >
> > > You should now be able to try whatever you want with the file.
> > >
> > > George.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Jack Maartman
> > > Sent: 01 June 2004 05:52
> > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > >
> > > I'm going to have to bone up on Ms-Word and Swift before 
> I can do this
> > > adequately. With regard to the help files, is there anything in
> > > particular, you want me to look for?
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:08 AM
> > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Ian,
> > > >
> > > > This is getting quite intriguing.  Any other Beta 
> testers tried this
> > > > yet?
> > > >
> > > > If I try to open a password protected Word 2003 
> document in any of my
> > > > three flavours of DBT, I get a 714 error.
> > > >
> > > > However, if I open the document in Word, and then use 
> the current
> > > > version of SWIFT (The one which maintains multiple .mws 
> files) it
> > > comes
> > > > into DBT OK, which is, to a large extent, what I would 
> expect, or at
> > > > least hope for.
> > > >
> > > > Why YOU have the problem is a mystery.  (And bear in 
> mind I have the
> > > > advantage of an XP Home and Pro system, side by side here.)
> > > >
> > > > What I guess we might also have to look at (but after 
> 10.5 please!) is
> > > > The Information Rights Management Service.  That should give
> > > programmers
> > > > a mild migraine.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > George.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
> > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 14:59
> > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > >
> > > > Hi George,
> > > >
> > > > I only get "Error 714" if the document is sent to DBT 
> via SWIFT.  When
> > > > using DBTs File Open dialogue, the application hangs.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: "Error 714" is a DBT message.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:18 PM
> > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ian,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just tried it here with XP Professional and 
> Home, and Office
> > > > > 2003.  I've also used DBT 10.4, current Beta, and the untested
> > > > autobuild
> > > > > of 28th May, and in all cases I get the same result.
> > > > >
> > > > > After displaying DBT's normal import dialog, where it 
> correctly
> > > > > identifies File Type, I get "Error Message 714" pop 
> up, but DBT
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > hang or such like.    Nothing appears in the error 
> logs.  Trawled
> > > the
> > > > MS
> > > > > KB to no avail, and even googled with no success, so 
> I hope it's a
> > > DBT
> > > > > error message, which can be rephrased to be something more
> > > meaningful.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not surprised you didn't find the word "password" 
> in Help.  Not
> > > > only
> > > > > has the indexing not been completed yet, but the word 
> doesn't exist
> > > > > anywhere in the text.  Got any ideas for a topic that 
> should include
> > > > > "password"?  (Smile)
> > > > >
> > > > > George.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
> > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 11:47
> > > > > To: List DBTBeta
> > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Password Protected Documents
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > This isn't strictly a beta issue as I can replicate 
> it with 10.4.
> > > > >
> > > > > Trying to open a password protected Word document 
> causes DBT to
> > > hang.
> > > > > The title bar is visible to JAWS, but the application is not
> > > > responding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Trying to close DBT caused Windows XP to display the 
> "This program
> > > is
> > > > > not responding" dialogue.  Selecting "End now", 
> caused a lot of hard
> > > > > disc activity and a slow down of the whole system, 
> but a DBT window
> > > > > still remained.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the end, I had to reboot the system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I searched DBT's Help for "password", and got 
> no results.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > >
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