Jack, Software is built here every night. We call that an autobuild. About once a week, we test it. If it passes muster, we digitally sign the result and call it a beta. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Maartman Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:56 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents What is the relationship between the nightly autobuilds and the current beta. I was hounding everyone about stuff left in the registry. I retract, I renounce my conviction. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > Jack, > > The code for the additional warning has been committed and built, so it > should be found in beta 4. > > Of general interest, beta 4 will be delayed. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:52 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > Has this been addressed in the last autobuiod, or is it yet to come. One > might assume, that the average uer might well be only using one embosser, > and once set up and working, she might never have to look at the dialog > again. Not having an embosser, I only discovered the problem existed when I > replicated the top margin bug using the braille Blazer, and that I was > blaming all the short-comings on the registry. Play it safe, never blame the > programmers for anything. > > Jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:42 AM > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > Hi Jack, > > > > You CANNOT delete the last embosser, even if you have deleted 5 more > > beforehand. That issue has been addressed with a better warning. > > > > George. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > Sent: 01 June 2004 17:33 > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > I don't know, as it is the only system I have. I'll have to > > > re-install everything, and then try again, or some upt the > > > courage to delete the entries via regedit. I am reluctant to > > > do this, as if the system doesn't boot, I don't have a > > > monitor, let alone requisite help--well who needs a monitor > > > anyway!! Perhaps this is not even a win98 issue. You can > > > delete all embossers, but when you re-initialize DBT they're > > > all still there. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:21 AM > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > > > I've been hearing about some trouble removing embossers; I > > > perhaps hadn't > > > > picked up the detail that this is with Windows 98 specifically. > > > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:22 PM > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > Will do. > > > > > > > > Did I mention it seems impossible to delete embossers under > > > win98. I don't > > > > know what implications this has, as I haven't one. > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:41 AM > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jack, > > > > > > > > > > Open a file in Word. For safety, do a File: Save As and > > > save it as > > > > > something else. Having done that, go to Tools, Options, > > > select the > > > > > Security Tab where you can give it a memorable password. > > > Close the > > > > > file, and re-open it again, to prove to yourself that it > > > does actually > > > > > require a password. > > > > > > > > > > You should now be able to try whatever you want with the file. > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > On Behalf Of Jack Maartman > > > > > Sent: 01 June 2004 05:52 > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to have to bone up on Ms-Word and Swift before > > > I can do this > > > > > adequately. With regard to the help files, is there anything in > > > > > particular, you want me to look for? > > > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:08 AM > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is getting quite intriguing. Any other Beta > > > testers tried this > > > > > > yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > If I try to open a password protected Word 2003 > > > document in any of my > > > > > > three flavours of DBT, I get a 714 error. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, if I open the document in Word, and then use > > > the current > > > > > > version of SWIFT (The one which maintains multiple .mws > > > files) it > > > > > comes > > > > > > into DBT OK, which is, to a large extent, what I would > > > expect, or at > > > > > > least hope for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why YOU have the problem is a mystery. (And bear in > > > mind I have the > > > > > > advantage of an XP Home and Pro system, side by side here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > What I guess we might also have to look at (but after > > > 10.5 please!) is > > > > > > The Information Rights Management Service. That should give > > > > > programmers > > > > > > a mild migraine. > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 14:59 > > > > > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > > > > > > > > > I only get "Error 714" if the document is sent to DBT > > > via SWIFT. When > > > > > > using DBTs File Open dialogue, the application hangs. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: "Error 714" is a DBT message. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:18 PM > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just tried it here with XP Professional and > > > Home, and Office > > > > > > > 2003. I've also used DBT 10.4, current Beta, and the untested > > > > > > autobuild > > > > > > > of 28th May, and in all cases I get the same result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After displaying DBT's normal import dialog, where it > > > correctly > > > > > > > identifies File Type, I get "Error Message 714" pop > > > up, but DBT > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > hang or such like. Nothing appears in the error > > > logs. Trawled > > > > > the > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > KB to no avail, and even googled with no success, so > > > I hope it's a > > > > > DBT > > > > > > > error message, which can be rephrased to be something more > > > > > meaningful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not surprised you didn't find the word "password" > > > in Help. Not > > > > > > only > > > > > > > has the indexing not been completed yet, but the word > > > doesn't exist > > > > > > > anywhere in the text. Got any ideas for a topic that > > > should include > > > > > > > "password"? (Smile) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ian Robinson > > > > > > > Sent: 31 May 2004 11:47 > > > > > > > To: List DBTBeta > > > > > > > Subject: [duxhelp] Password Protected Documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't strictly a beta issue as I can replicate > > > it with 10.4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to open a password protected Word document > > > causes DBT to > > > > > hang. > > > > > > > The title bar is visible to JAWS, but the application is not > > > > > > responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to close DBT caused Windows XP to display the > > > "This program > > > > > is > > > > > > > not responding" dialogue. 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