thanks Shelley! somewhere I have a step-by-step plan for teaching the use of the toileting harness. Let me see if I can find it and I'll send it to you. the address for my company is: http://www.livingblind.com thanks much! Julie http://www.livingblind.com/eml Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Dr. Seuss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: (VICT) Re: dogs in public question >I just purchased one of those Toilet harnesses, smile, and will be starting > the process for Gwenna, as the school here GDB wants to know, and for when > she is sick, or we can't find grass, or well any time it wouldn't be > convent, smile. > > Wish us luck! > > Ollie, if you can remember back how you trained this, I would love to hear > about it, smile. > > I purchased mine from On the Go Dog Gear, at www.livingblind.org > > Julie Johnson's company. Looks really nicely made. > > Not sure how Gwenna will handle it but plan on putting it on whith tons > and > tons of high value rewards, smile. > > > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > Graduate Alumni Association Board > www.guidedogs.com > > More than Any other time, When I hold a beloved book in my hand, my > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. > - Helen Keller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Megatartix" <megatartix@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:50 AM > Subject: (VICT) Re: dogs in public question > > > Sandy, > I totally agree, but all this made me think of something that might > be worth sharing on this list. > > I live in Milan, as most of you already know. In Italy people were > not used (and not required, most of the time) to pick up after their dogs. > Guide dog handlers, in most citiesand towns, are still not required to do. > My city - although it's the second in Italy for number of > inhabitants, and the first for business volume - has always been very > dirty, with many streets littered with dog "leavings". > > The street next to mine was no exception, and that was particularly > bad, because there is an elementary school on it, and a small park > which is always full of young kids. > > Then, a couple of years ago, I got a toilet harness for Pretty, and > trained her to use it. I taught her to find the garbage can > afterwards, to throws the bag away. > > Many people observe me in silence; some ask questions, some > compliment us on our education. > But there is a more general result: more and more people are now > picking up, because they have probably been challenged by seeing > ablind person being so careful, so they have no excuses. > Pretty's succeeded where the local police and their fines had failed... > > Useless to say that I "toilet-harness trained" Pretty with C/T!!! > > Hugs and wags, > Ollie > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: > 9/14/2007 > 8:59 AM > > > >