We do wish you luck, and we're sure you'l manage all right! What I did, was to just keep Pretty indoors a=20 little bit longer than usual, so as to be sure=20 she HAD to go... I put the harness on, and C/T.=20 Then we walked around, with her trying to get rid=20 of it to "produce", but eventually she just=20 couldn't help it, and when she did, lots of=20 praise and C/t, with great rewards... Once was enough. A couple of other friends here, whom I gave=20 harnesses as a present, have found it just as easy. I'm sure the two of you will do great! Let us konw... Hugs and Wags, Ollie & Pretty At 20:23 15/09/2007, you wrote: >I just purchased one of those Toilet harnesses, smile, and will be starting >the process for Gwenna, as the school here GDB wants to know, and for when >she is sick, or we can't find grass, or well any time it wouldn't be >convent, smile. > >Wish us luck! > >Ollie, if you can remember back how you trained this, I would love to hear >about it, smile. > >I purchased mine from On the Go Dog Gear, at www.livingblind.org > >Julie Johnson's company. Looks really nicely made. > >Not sure how Gwenna will handle it but plan on putting it on whith tons and >tons of high value rewards, smile. > > >Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI >and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide >juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. >Graduate Alumni Association Board >www.guidedogs.com > >More than Any other time, When I hold a beloved book in my hand, my >limitations fall from me, my spirit is free. >- Helen Keller > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Megatartix" <megatartix@xxxxxxxxxx> >To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:50 AM >Subject: (VICT) Re: dogs in public question > > >Sandy, >I totally agree, but all this made me think of something that might >be worth sharing on this list. > >I live in Milan, as most of you already know. In Italy people were >not used (and not required, most of the time) to pick up after their dogs. >Guide dog handlers, in most citiesand towns, are still not required to do. >My city - although it's the second in Italy for number of >inhabitants, and the first for business volume - has always been very >dirty, with many streets littered with dog "leavings". > >The street next to mine was no exception, and that was particularly >bad, because there is an elementary school on it, and a small park >which is always full of young kids. > >Then, a couple of years ago, I got a toilet harness for Pretty, and >trained her to use it. I taught her to find the garbage can >afterwards, to throws the bag away. > >Many people observe me in silence; some ask questions, some >compliment us on our education. >But there is a more general result: more and more people are now >picking up, because they have probably been challenged by seeing >ablind person being so careful, so they have no excuses. >Pretty's succeeded where the local police and their fines had failed... > >Useless to say that I "toilet-harness trained" Pretty with C/T!!! > >Hugs and wags, >Ollie > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 >8:59 AM > > > > >__________ Informazione NOD32 2532 (20070916) __________ > >Questo messaggio =E8 stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 >http://www.nod32.it