Thanks, Sandy. As always, your comments are firmly grounded in good clicker science and philosophy. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: (VICT) Re: dogs in public question > > In a message dated 9/13/2007 10:26:35 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > annedie@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > If anyone has positively oriented, clicker-thought-based suggestions or > solutions for Martha's story, please go ahead and post them to the list. > Otherwise, focusing negatively on what other people or their dogs do in > public is definitely off-topic and not in the spirit of this list, so > please > take the discussion off list. > > > > > I am choosing not to respond to her request as it seems very > confrontational > in her choice of questions plus we have nothing to go on but her word. > She > also states that she already knows the answers. Not very open-minded > IMHO. > > Kind of clicker training in action.. ignore what you dont like and > encourage > what you do.. smiling wicked grin.. > > Please folks, lets be careful and prudent in our correspondence on the > net. > None of us really knows each other, although I have met some of the folks > on > the lists in person,and starting a flame-war against the general public > and > their training/lack of training wont change that. Education might. > > Focusing on the few folks who abuse a law designed to help us uphold our > civil rights and use our choice of assistive device (lord I hate calling > Alex > that, even if it is true)won't help. Education might. People still speed > and > kill other people, even with a law prohibiting it. Heck, people still > commit > murder, even with the serious, life threatening penalties.. In my > opinion, > that alone is proof that punishment doesn't work. > > Sandy Foushee > Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs > Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog > Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > >