[THIN] Re: Receiver 4.2.1
- From: Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:43:01 -0600
I bought an iPad today. Loaded the receiver, pointed safari at my cag
site, logged in and launched apps. Easy as could be. I like it.
On Dec 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Pat Coughlin <strangedog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The access gateway instructions are now wrong. These documents need
> to be updated by Citrix ASAP. The useragent only includes
> "Citrixreciever" and not "darwin". Most sites built to spec are
> failing on the user agent issue (fixed mine). FYI
>
> Pat Coughlin
> Citrix Goon
>
> On 12/17/10, Warren Simondson <caditc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> This post definitely generated some interest. Since my original post, I have
>> been doing some heavy
>> tetsing becasue we have a strong interest in Citrix/ Ipad integration. I am
>> currently writting an ICA
>> direct client for IPAD, but don't expect it too soon, as with all my other
>> programming projects, they are
>> all on hold until we stop getting new customers doing Citrix rollouts. I
>> haven't been able to get out a
>> new program in also 2 years and it's killing me, but at the end of the day
>> I've got to run Ctrl-Alt-Del IT
>> Consultancy and support my staff.
>>
>> Anyway, back to the new reciever for IPAD. As with most Citrix releases
>> lately there is good and bad. I
>> think the bad things maybe be out weighing the good at the moment in my
>> testing but there as some
>> querky good things for those on just WI with no csg or AG.
>>
>> The bad:
>> - Those who use CSG will hate this one. I do. To set up CSG and WI for IPAD
>> see this article:
>> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX121360
>>
>> Now I had several smaller customers on CSG and had the previous Receiver
>> working perfectly, but
>> now it's stuffed, but it's not the new receiver. It's the fact I added R06
>> (rollup pack 6) on my Citrix
>> servers last night at the same time I happened to download the new reciever.
>> I noticed that the
>> CTX121360 article was sneakily updated on 15 december 2010. At the very
>> bottom of the article some
>> notes have been quickly added. Here is one of them:
>>
>> Scenario: Without Certificates on the iPad and the Program Neighborhood
>> Agent site configured as
>> gateway direct:
>>
>> - The Citrix Receiver ends in a few seconds / Crashes on Presentation Server
>> 4.0 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06
>> and XenApp 4.5 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 (No errors)
>>
>> - After installing the Certificates to the iPad and the Program Neighborhood
>> Agent site configured as
>> gateway direct, XenApp 4.5 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 connected every time
>>
>> Now this is exactly what was happening to me when I got the new receiver. I
>> would get the app list
>> perfectly, select an app, and then sit there as the worm spun around saying
>> "please wait". After about
>> 60 seconds, I was just returned to the main apps screen and no app launched.
>> Reading CTX121360, it
>> says I have to install the Cert on the ipad. Never had to do this before.
>> But this issue is partly the new
>> receiver and also the fact I had R06 on the servers as well. This is very
>> annoyong and will put many
>> customers off if we have to manually install a Cert on every IPAD. To
>> install a Cert on IPAD see this
>> article: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX125655
>>
>> So I tried a CSG site that did not have R06 on it's servers and it worked
>> perfectly with the new reciever
>> without manually installing the Cert.
>>
>> But then, I used Safari to contect directly to the externally URL of the
>> CSG/WI page of al my customers
>> sites. Went through this way to the site that has R06 on it's server where
>> the Reciever did work, used
>> the WI interface to select an app, and kaa-bang, it launched perfectly.
>> Obviously because the cert was
>> validated through safari. So a small bonus here, but more annoying that I
>> can't use the receiver
>> directly.
>>
>> Another bad - once in a session, the "tapping" selection method is extremely
>> buggy. When I started
>> tapping in a session, it decided that it would right mouse click instead of
>> normal mouse click. Normally
>> a right mouse click is initiated by using a 2 finger tap on the screen, but
>> in this case it was changing it's
>> mind randomly. Sometimes I'd get right click, others normal click. I almost
>> threw the ipad after 5
>> minutes of use with this issue. I though at first it might be my fat fingers
>> simulating 2 fingers, but sadly
>> I'm a skinny dude and my index finger is no wider that a quarter of an inch.
>> So I consider this to be
>> absolutely unusable in this instance.
>>
>> The good:
>> - Direct WI access through the receiver - this worked for me with all
>> version of WI - 5.1, 5.2, 5.3.
>> Could test any version 4 WI's as I don;t have any. But how about this, I
>> connected to a customer who
>> still is using Metaframe XP and Nfuse 1.7 classic using the new citrix
>> receiver. I had to ensure that java
>> fallback was not select to make it work, but it worked both directly through
>> the receiver and through
>> safari. BONUS for those nostaglic nfusers out there.
>>
>> - As mentioned earlier, the fact that you can access WI sites directly
>> through safari now is a handy
>> edition.
>>
>> Any more good. No. I think this edition of the receiver is a dog and very
>> unworkable. The tapping issue
>> in a session is simply pathetic.
>>
>> Citrix need better beta testers who can test real site scenarios, not
>> in-house test labs.
>>
>> --
>> Warren Simondson
>>
>> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
>>
>> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> What version of the WI are you using?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Michael Pardee <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, this works perfectly for me. This way would be easier for our users
>>>> since it is now nearly identical to how they get in from their personal
>>>> devices from home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Your web interface isn't giving you the terminal loop at client
>>> detection?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Michael Pardee < <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, you are officially my favorite person of the day. That just
>>>>> worked for me as well. This is basically how I hoped the original iPad
>>>>> app would work but we had to go though all the receiver pieces. This
>>>>> is much different. Maybe we actually don't care about configuring the
>>>>> receiver client at all anymore. Thanks for this help.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Jan < <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just installed the Citrix Receiver 4.2.1 on an iPad that used to
>>> have
>>>>> the 1.1 receiver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first thing I found was that now I cannot get to my web
>>> interface
>>>>> page via Safari, it goes into a terminal loop during the client
>>> detection
>>>>> stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I found that the preconfigured URL for setting up the PN Agent
>>> URL,
>>>>> and Domain name no longer works. (This is a URL generated by an online
>>>>> Citrix utility. It is used for either publishing the URL via web, or
>>> sending
>>>>> via email so that a client doesn't have to type in those pieces of
>>> info.)
>>>>> You tap on it and nothing happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once in the Receiver I found that there is no way to log off and
>>> switch
>>>>> users. You can apparently add another profile, but any apps that I've
>>> placed
>>>>> on the desktop are visible to the next user to set up a profile in the
>>>>> Receiver. I suppose if I logged off they might disappear, but again I
>>> found
>>>>> no way to log off the PN interface which shows the apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was able to log on via the web interface via Safari by bypassing
>>>>> client detection. My apps showed, tapping on one brought up a dialog
>>> asking
>>>>> if I wanted to open the ica file using Citrix. Once I tapped Citrix,
>>> the
>>>>> receiver took over and launched the app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line is that this version of the Receiver is not an upgrade,
>>> it
>>>>> is a MAJOR change from all previously documented behavior of the
>>> Receiver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan
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