[THIN] Re: Receiver 4.2.1

  • From: Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:35:41 -0600

yeah.  we had some fun with XenClient.  Getting ready to put in an iSilon
SAN and then start deploying Windows7 images for XenDesktop/XenClient.  The
iPad connections are just gravy at this point.  But it was a good excuse to
go buy an iPad today.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Douglas A. Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I've been using the Receiver for a few weeks. I really like it. The track
> pad feature rocks and multitasking support makes me actually use the app
> whereas before I never really did as it was always a pain to launch - find -
> and login again. ARG...
>
> As for SG support - it is not officially supported but it works great!
>
> Hey Greg - a while ago (a year I think) you said you were interested in
> XenClient?  Have you been able to mess around with it this year?  If so,
> what do you think?  and that goes for everyone out there?  Thoughts on
> XenClient??
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Greg Reese
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:43 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Receiver 4.2.1
>
> I bought an iPad today.  Loaded the receiver, pointed safari at my cag
> site, logged in and launched apps. Easy as could be. I like it.
>
> On Dec 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Pat Coughlin <strangedog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > The access gateway instructions are now wrong.  These documents need
> > to be updated by Citrix ASAP.  The useragent only includes
> > "Citrixreciever" and not "darwin".  Most sites built to spec are
> > failing on the user agent issue (fixed mine).  FYI
> >
> > Pat Coughlin
> > Citrix Goon
> >
> > On 12/17/10, Warren Simondson <caditc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> This post definitely generated some interest. Since my original post,
> >> I have been doing some heavy tetsing becasue we have a strong
> >> interest in Citrix/ Ipad integration. I am currently writting an ICA
> >> direct client for IPAD, but don't expect it too soon, as with all my
> >> other programming projects, they are all on hold until we stop
> >> getting new customers doing Citrix rollouts. I haven't been able to
> >> get out a new program in also 2 years and it's killing me, but at the
> >> end of the day I've got to run Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy and
> >> support my staff.
> >>
> >> Anyway, back to the new reciever for IPAD. As with most Citrix
> >> releases lately there is good and bad. I think the bad things maybe
> >> be out weighing the good at the moment in my testing but there as
> >> some querky good things for those on just WI with no csg or AG.
> >>
> >> The bad:
> >> - Those who use CSG will hate this one. I do. To set up CSG and WI
> >> for IPAD see this article:
> >> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX121360
> >>
> >> Now I had several smaller customers on CSG and had the previous
> >> Receiver working perfectly, but now it's stuffed, but it's not the
> >> new receiver. It's the fact I added R06 (rollup pack 6) on my Citrix
> >> servers last night at the same time I happened to download the new
> reciever.
> >> I noticed that the
> >> CTX121360 article was sneakily updated on 15 december 2010. At the
> >> very bottom of the article some notes have been quickly added. Here
> >> is one of them:
> >>
> >> Scenario: Without Certificates on the iPad and the Program
> >> Neighborhood Agent site configured as gateway direct:
> >>
> >> - The Citrix Receiver ends in a few seconds / Crashes on Presentation
> >> Server
> >> 4.0 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06
> >> and XenApp 4.5 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 (No errors)
> >>
> >> - After installing the Certificates to the iPad and the Program
> >> Neighborhood Agent site configured as gateway direct, XenApp 4.5
> >> Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 connected every time
> >>
> >> Now this is exactly what was happening to me when I got the new
> >> receiver. I would get the app list perfectly, select an app, and then
> >> sit there as the worm spun around saying "please wait". After about
> >> 60 seconds, I was just returned to the main apps screen and no app
> launched.
> >> Reading CTX121360, it
> >> says I have to install the Cert on the ipad. Never had to do this
> before.
> >> But this issue is partly the new
> >> receiver and also the fact I had R06 on the servers as well. This is
> >> very annoyong and will put many customers off if we have to manually
> >> install a Cert on every IPAD. To install a Cert on IPAD see this
> >> article: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX125655
> >>
> >> So I tried a CSG site that did not have R06 on it's servers and it
> >> worked perfectly with the new reciever without manually installing
> >> the Cert.
> >>
> >> But then, I used Safari to contect directly to the externally URL of
> >> the CSG/WI page of al my customers sites. Went through this way to
> >> the site that has R06 on it's server where the Reciever did work,
> >> used the WI interface to select an app, and kaa-bang, it launched
> >> perfectly.
> >> Obviously because the cert was
> >> validated through safari. So a small bonus here, but more annoying
> >> that I can't use the receiver directly.
> >>
> >> Another bad - once in a session, the "tapping" selection method is
> >> extremely buggy. When I started tapping in a session, it decided that
> >> it would right mouse click instead of normal mouse click. Normally a
> >> right mouse click is initiated by using a 2 finger tap on the screen,
> >> but in this case it was changing it's mind randomly. Sometimes I'd
> >> get right click, others normal click. I almost threw the ipad after 5
> >> minutes of use with this issue. I though at first it might be my fat
> >> fingers simulating 2 fingers, but sadly I'm a skinny dude and my
> >> index finger is no wider that a quarter of an inch.
> >> So I consider this to be
> >> absolutely unusable in this instance.
> >>
> >> The good:
> >> - Direct WI access through the receiver - this worked for me with all
> >> version of WI - 5.1, 5.2, 5.3.
> >> Could test any version 4 WI's as I don;t have any. But how about
> >> this, I connected to a customer who still is using Metaframe XP and
> >> Nfuse 1.7 classic using the new citrix receiver. I had to ensure that
> >> java fallback was not select to make it work, but it worked both
> >> directly through the receiver and through safari. BONUS for those
> >> nostaglic nfusers out there.
> >>
> >> - As mentioned earlier, the fact that you can access WI sites
> >> directly through safari now is a handy edition.
> >>
> >> Any more good. No. I think this edition of the receiver is a dog and
> >> very unworkable. The tapping issue in a session is simply pathetic.
> >>
> >> Citrix need better beta testers who can test real site scenarios, not
> >> in-house test labs.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Warren Simondson
> >>
> >> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> >>
> >> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What version of the WI are you using?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Michael Pardee
> >>> <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> No, this works perfectly for me. This way would be easier for our
> >>>> users since it is now nearly identical to how they get in from
> >>>> their personal devices from home.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Your web interface isn't giving you the terminal loop at client
> >>> detection?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Michael Pardee <
> >>>> <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx> pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ok, you are officially my favorite person of the day.  That just
> >>>>> worked for me as well. This is basically how I hoped the original
> >>>>> iPad app would work but we had to go though all the receiver
> >>>>> pieces. This is much different. Maybe we actually don't care about
> >>>>> configuring the receiver client at all anymore. Thanks for this help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Jan < <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I just installed the Citrix Receiver 4.2.1 on an iPad that used
> >>>>>> to
> >>> have
> >>>>> the 1.1 receiver.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The first thing I found was that now I cannot get to my web
> >>> interface
> >>>>> page via Safari, it goes into a terminal loop during the client
> >>> detection
> >>>>> stage.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then I found that the preconfigured URL for setting up the PN
> >>>>>> Agent
> >>> URL,
> >>>>> and Domain name no longer works. (This is a URL generated by an
> >>>>> online Citrix utility. It is used for either publishing the URL
> >>>>> via web, or
> >>> sending
> >>>>> via email so that a client doesn't have to type in those pieces of
> >>> info.)
> >>>>> You tap on it and nothing happens.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once in the Receiver I found that there is no way to log off and
> >>> switch
> >>>>> users. You can apparently add another profile, but any apps that
> >>>>> I've
> >>> placed
> >>>>> on the desktop are visible to the next user to set up a profile in
> >>>>> the Receiver. I suppose if I logged off they might disappear, but
> >>>>> again I
> >>> found
> >>>>> no way to log off the PN interface which shows the apps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was able to log on via the web interface via Safari by
> >>>>>> bypassing
> >>>>> client detection. My apps showed, tapping on one brought up a
> >>>>> dialog
> >>> asking
> >>>>> if I wanted to open the ica file using Citrix. Once I tapped
> >>>>> Citrix,
> >>> the
> >>>>> receiver took over and launched the app.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bottom line is that this version of the Receiver is not an
> >>>>>> upgrade,
> >>> it
> >>>>> is a MAJOR change from all previously documented behavior of the
> >>> Receiver.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jan
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