[THIN] Re: Receiver 4.2.1

  • From: "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:48:46 -0500

I've been using the Receiver for a few weeks. I really like it. The track pad 
feature rocks and multitasking support makes me actually use the app whereas 
before I never really did as it was always a pain to launch - find - and login 
again. ARG...    

As for SG support - it is not officially supported but it works great!  

Hey Greg - a while ago (a year I think) you said you were interested in 
XenClient?  Have you been able to mess around with it this year?  If so, what 
do you think?  and that goes for everyone out there?  Thoughts on XenClient??   


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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Greg Reese
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:43 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Receiver 4.2.1

I bought an iPad today.  Loaded the receiver, pointed safari at my cag site, 
logged in and launched apps. Easy as could be. I like it.

On Dec 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Pat Coughlin <strangedog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The access gateway instructions are now wrong.  These documents need 
> to be updated by Citrix ASAP.  The useragent only includes 
> "Citrixreciever" and not "darwin".  Most sites built to spec are 
> failing on the user agent issue (fixed mine).  FYI
> Pat Coughlin
> Citrix Goon
> On 12/17/10, Warren Simondson <caditc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> This post definitely generated some interest. Since my original post, 
>> I have been doing some heavy tetsing becasue we have a strong 
>> interest in Citrix/ Ipad integration. I am currently writting an ICA 
>> direct client for IPAD, but don't expect it too soon, as with all my 
>> other programming projects, they are all on hold until we stop 
>> getting new customers doing Citrix rollouts. I haven't been able to 
>> get out a new program in also 2 years and it's killing me, but at the 
>> end of the day I've got to run Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy and 
>> support my staff.
>> Anyway, back to the new reciever for IPAD. As with most Citrix 
>> releases lately there is good and bad. I think the bad things maybe 
>> be out weighing the good at the moment in my testing but there as 
>> some querky good things for those on just WI with no csg or AG.
>> The bad:
>> - Those who use CSG will hate this one. I do. To set up CSG and WI 
>> for IPAD see this article:
>> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX121360
>> Now I had several smaller customers on CSG and had the previous 
>> Receiver working perfectly, but now it's stuffed, but it's not the 
>> new receiver. It's the fact I added R06 (rollup pack 6) on my Citrix 
>> servers last night at the same time I happened to download the new reciever.
>> I noticed that the
>> CTX121360 article was sneakily updated on 15 december 2010. At the 
>> very bottom of the article some notes have been quickly added. Here 
>> is one of them:
>> Scenario: Without Certificates on the iPad and the Program 
>> Neighborhood Agent site configured as gateway direct:
>> - The Citrix Receiver ends in a few seconds / Crashes on Presentation 
>> Server
>> 4.0 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06
>> and XenApp 4.5 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 (No errors)
>> - After installing the Certificates to the iPad and the Program 
>> Neighborhood Agent site configured as gateway direct, XenApp 4.5 
>> Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 connected every time
>> Now this is exactly what was happening to me when I got the new 
>> receiver. I would get the app list perfectly, select an app, and then 
>> sit there as the worm spun around saying "please wait". After about
>> 60 seconds, I was just returned to the main apps screen and no app launched.
>> Reading CTX121360, it
>> says I have to install the Cert on the ipad. Never had to do this before.
>> But this issue is partly the new
>> receiver and also the fact I had R06 on the servers as well. This is 
>> very annoyong and will put many customers off if we have to manually 
>> install a Cert on every IPAD. To install a Cert on IPAD see this
>> article: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX125655
>> So I tried a CSG site that did not have R06 on it's servers and it 
>> worked perfectly with the new reciever without manually installing 
>> the Cert.
>> But then, I used Safari to contect directly to the externally URL of 
>> the CSG/WI page of al my customers sites. Went through this way to 
>> the site that has R06 on it's server where the Reciever did work, 
>> used the WI interface to select an app, and kaa-bang, it launched 
>> perfectly.
>> Obviously because the cert was
>> validated through safari. So a small bonus here, but more annoying 
>> that I can't use the receiver directly.
>> Another bad - once in a session, the "tapping" selection method is 
>> extremely buggy. When I started tapping in a session, it decided that 
>> it would right mouse click instead of normal mouse click. Normally a 
>> right mouse click is initiated by using a 2 finger tap on the screen, 
>> but in this case it was changing it's mind randomly. Sometimes I'd 
>> get right click, others normal click. I almost threw the ipad after 5 
>> minutes of use with this issue. I though at first it might be my fat 
>> fingers simulating 2 fingers, but sadly I'm a skinny dude and my 
>> index finger is no wider that a quarter of an inch.
>> So I consider this to be
>> absolutely unusable in this instance.
>> The good:
>> - Direct WI access through the receiver - this worked for me with all 
>> version of WI - 5.1, 5.2, 5.3.
>> Could test any version 4 WI's as I don;t have any. But how about 
>> this, I connected to a customer who still is using Metaframe XP and 
>> Nfuse 1.7 classic using the new citrix receiver. I had to ensure that 
>> java fallback was not select to make it work, but it worked both 
>> directly through the receiver and through safari. BONUS for those 
>> nostaglic nfusers out there.
>> - As mentioned earlier, the fact that you can access WI sites 
>> directly through safari now is a handy edition.
>> Any more good. No. I think this edition of the receiver is a dog and 
>> very unworkable. The tapping issue in a session is simply pathetic.
>> Citrix need better beta testers who can test real site scenarios, not 
>> in-house test labs.
>> --
>> Warren Simondson
>> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
>> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
>> On Sat, Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> What version of the WI are you using?
>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Michael Pardee 
>>> <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> No, this works perfectly for me. This way would be easier for our 
>>>> users since it is now nearly identical to how they get in from 
>>>> their personal devices from home.
>>>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Your web interface isn't giving you the terminal loop at client
>>> detection?
>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Michael Pardee < 
>>>> <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx> pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, you are officially my favorite person of the day.  That just 
>>>>> worked for me as well. This is basically how I hoped the original 
>>>>> iPad app would work but we had to go though all the receiver 
>>>>> pieces. This is much different. Maybe we actually don't care about 
>>>>> configuring the receiver client at all anymore. Thanks for this help.
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Jan < <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>> tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> I just installed the Citrix Receiver 4.2.1 on an iPad that used 
>>>>>> to
>>> have
>>>>> the 1.1 receiver.
>>>>>> The first thing I found was that now I cannot get to my web
>>> interface
>>>>> page via Safari, it goes into a terminal loop during the client
>>> detection
>>>>> stage.
>>>>>> Then I found that the preconfigured URL for setting up the PN 
>>>>>> Agent
>>> URL,
>>>>> and Domain name no longer works. (This is a URL generated by an 
>>>>> online Citrix utility. It is used for either publishing the URL 
>>>>> via web, or
>>> sending
>>>>> via email so that a client doesn't have to type in those pieces of
>>> info.)
>>>>> You tap on it and nothing happens.
>>>>>> Once in the Receiver I found that there is no way to log off and
>>> switch
>>>>> users. You can apparently add another profile, but any apps that 
>>>>> I've
>>> placed
>>>>> on the desktop are visible to the next user to set up a profile in 
>>>>> the Receiver. I suppose if I logged off they might disappear, but 
>>>>> again I
>>> found
>>>>> no way to log off the PN interface which shows the apps.
>>>>>> I was able to log on via the web interface via Safari by 
>>>>>> bypassing
>>>>> client detection. My apps showed, tapping on one brought up a 
>>>>> dialog
>>> asking
>>>>> if I wanted to open the ica file using Citrix. Once I tapped 
>>>>> Citrix,
>>> the
>>>>> receiver took over and launched the app.
>>>>>> Bottom line is that this version of the Receiver is not an 
>>>>>> upgrade,
>>> it
>>>>> is a MAJOR change from all previously documented behavior of the
>>> Receiver.
>>>>>> Jan
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