[THIN] Re: Receiver 4.2.1

  • From: Warren Simondson <caditc@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:39:53 +1100

This post definitely generated some interest. Since my original post, I have 
been doing some heavy 
tetsing becasue we have a strong interest in Citrix/ Ipad integration. I am 
currently writting an ICA 
direct client for IPAD, but don't expect it too soon, as with all my other 
programming projects, they are 
all on hold until we stop getting new customers doing Citrix rollouts. I 
haven't been able to get out a 
new program in also 2 years and it's killing me, but at the end of the day I've 
got to run Ctrl-Alt-Del IT 
Consultancy and support my staff.

Anyway, back to the new reciever for IPAD. As with most Citrix releases lately 
there is good and bad. I 
think the bad things maybe be out weighing the good at the moment in my testing 
but there as some 
querky good things for those on just WI with no csg or AG.

The bad:
- Those who use CSG will hate this one. I do. To set up CSG and WI for IPAD see 
this article:  

Now I had several smaller customers on CSG and had the previous Receiver 
working perfectly, but 
now it's stuffed, but it's not the new receiver. It's the fact I added R06 
(rollup pack 6) on my Citrix 
servers last night at the same time I happened to download the new reciever. I 
noticed that the 
CTX121360 article was sneakily updated on 15 december 2010. At the very bottom 
of the article some 
notes have been quickly added. Here is one of them:

Scenario: Without Certificates on the iPad and the Program Neighborhood Agent 
site configured as 
gateway direct:

- The Citrix Receiver ends in a few seconds / Crashes on Presentation Server 
4.0 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 
and XenApp 4.5 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 (No errors) 

- After installing the Certificates to the iPad and the Program Neighborhood 
Agent site configured as 
gateway direct, XenApp 4.5 Hotfix Rollup Pack 06 connected every time

Now this is exactly what was happening to me when I got the new receiver. I 
would get the app list 
perfectly, select an app, and then sit there as the worm spun around saying 
"please wait". After about 
60 seconds, I was just returned to the main apps screen and no app launched. 
Reading CTX121360, it 
says I have to install the Cert on the ipad. Never had to do this before. But 
this issue is partly the new 
receiver and also the fact I had R06 on the servers as well. This is very 
annoyong and will put many 
customers off if we have to manually install a Cert on every IPAD. To install a 
Cert on IPAD see this 
article: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX125655

So I tried a CSG site that did not have R06 on it's servers and it worked 
perfectly with the new reciever 
without manually installing the Cert. 

But then, I used Safari to contect directly to the externally URL of the CSG/WI 
page of al my customers 
sites. Went through this way to the site that has R06 on it's server where the 
Reciever did work, used 
the WI interface to select an app, and kaa-bang, it launched perfectly. 
Obviously because the cert was 
validated through safari. So a small bonus here, but more annoying that I can't 
use the receiver 

Another bad - once in a session, the "tapping" selection method is extremely 
buggy. When I started 
tapping in a session, it decided that it would right mouse click instead of 
normal mouse click. Normally 
a right mouse click is initiated by using a 2 finger tap on the screen, but in 
this case it was changing it's 
mind randomly. Sometimes I'd get right click, others normal click. I almost 
threw the ipad after 5 
minutes of use with this issue. I though at first it might be my fat fingers 
simulating 2 fingers, but sadly 
I'm a skinny dude and my index finger is no wider that a quarter of an inch. So 
I consider this to be 
absolutely unusable in this instance.

The good:
- Direct WI access through the receiver - this worked for me with all version 
of WI - 5.1, 5.2, 5.3. 
Could test any version 4 WI's as I don;t have any. But how about this, I 
connected to a customer who 
still is using Metaframe XP and Nfuse 1.7 classic using the new citrix 
receiver. I had to ensure that java 
fallback was not select to make it work, but it worked both directly through 
the receiver and through 
safari. BONUS for those nostaglic nfusers out there.

- As mentioned earlier, the fact that you can access WI sites directly through 
safari now is a handy 

Any more good. No. I think this edition of the receiver is a dog and very 
unworkable. The tapping issue 
in a session is simply pathetic.

Citrix need better beta testers who can test real site scenarios, not in-house 
test labs.

Warren Simondson

Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd

Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au

On Sat, Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> What version of the WI are you using?
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Michael Pardee <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > No, this works perfectly for me. This way would be easier for our users
> > since it is now nearly identical to how they get in from their personal
> > devices from home.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Your web interface isn't giving you the terminal loop at client
> detection?
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Michael Pardee < <pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx>
> > pardeemp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, you are officially my favorite person of the day.  That just
> >> worked for me as well. This is basically how I hoped the original iPad
> >> app would work but we had to go though all the receiver pieces. This
> >> is much different. Maybe we actually don't care about configuring the
> >> receiver client at all anymore. Thanks for this help.
> >>
> >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Jan < <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just installed the Citrix Receiver 4.2.1 on an iPad that used to
> have
> >> the 1.1 receiver.
> >> >
> >> > The first thing I found was that now I cannot get to my web
> interface
> >> page via Safari, it goes into a terminal loop during the client
> detection
> >> stage.
> >> >
> >> > Then I found that the preconfigured URL for setting up the PN Agent
> URL,
> >> and Domain name no longer works. (This is a URL generated by an online
> >> Citrix utility. It is used for either publishing the URL via web, or
> sending
> >> via email so that a client doesn't have to type in those pieces of
> info.)
> >> You tap on it and nothing happens.
> >> >
> >> > Once in the Receiver I found that there is no way to log off and
> switch
> >> users. You can apparently add another profile, but any apps that I've
> placed
> >> on the desktop are visible to the next user to set up a profile in the
> >> Receiver. I suppose if I logged off they might disappear, but again I
> found
> >> no way to log off the PN interface which shows the apps.
> >> >
> >> > I was able to log on via the web interface via Safari by bypassing
> >> client detection. My apps showed, tapping on one brought up a dialog
> asking
> >> if I wanted to open the ica file using Citrix. Once I tapped Citrix,
> the
> >> receiver took over and launched the app.
> >> >
> >> > Bottom line is that this version of the Receiver is not an upgrade,
> it
> >> is a MAJOR change from all previously documented behavior of the
> Receiver.
> >> >
> >> > Jan
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