[talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps

  • From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:35:49 +0000

Amy,

this is one of the problems with Vodafone and other Telco's offering Talks 
Standard, they act to serve their common interest and not yours.

Vodafone view Talks installations as something they do for you, something which 
costs them money and makes them nothing in return.

They offer Talks on a limited selection of phones, this being caused by a few 
things, firstly they do not want to offer it on handsets which perhaps they do 
not make as much margin on, but key, Nuance deliberately keep the Talks 
Standard version a few notches behind the Talks Premium one, meaning that Talks 
Standard will not support the latest range of phones on offer from Nokia.

Another big problem with Vodafone and other Telco's is that their staff are 
often ill informed and therefore bad at advising you what you may find will 
work for you etc.

This is where dealers such as us and Steve Nutt etc can really help, we 
understand the market, know our phones and our users, we can advise based on 
the latest range of phones which are supported by Talks Premium and actually 
have a desire to help.

hope that this helps.




Regards,

Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator

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On 25 Feb 2011, at 15:32, Amie Slavin wrote:

Neil
When I went to buy my phone, by simply walking into the Vodafone shop, they 
could only offer me one phone, they said, which could run Talks.  I’ve taken 
that, by reading this list, to mean that I was offered the only Simbion phone 
they had in stock.  It seemed that was my only choice.
I know I could, in a fantasy, have simply gone for Ifone and Voiceover, but 
could I have bought something between the two, and run Talks, please?
I’m happy with my phone, except that it was a recon’, and I’m concerned that it 
might not have a great life span.  It doesn’t do wifi, but I don’t much mind; 
only really want a phone, and to play books and music.  Sat’ nav’ would be 
great, but not essential.  So, I’m not that bothered, but it would have been 
nice to actually choose a phone,rather than only have one option.
Amie
 
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Sent: 24 February 2011 14:03
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps
 
Alex,
 
you were only left with nothing if you made the personal choice to stick with 
Symbian...
 

 
 
Regards,

Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
 
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On 24 Feb 2011, at 13:23, Alex Stone wrote:


Neil, agreed, but Maps is certainly better than the nothing we were going to be 
left with at the end of March.
Cheers
Alex
 
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Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: 23 February 2011 21:40
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps
 
Amy,
 
Wayfinder Access offered full point to point navigation, an around you look 
mode, a nearby mode, the ability to do other GPS functions using the speech 
software on your phone.
 
with OVI you can do point to point, but you cannot learn about what is around 
you as you travel using nearby or around you views.
 
I would say that where 100% represented a perfect GPS solution for the blind, 
something like Sendero GPS or Mobile Geo represents say a 90% solution, maybe 
more. whereas Wayfinder Access was say 40% there, with OVI and speech services 
from Nuance or Code Factory being only 20 - 25% there.
 
those around you or nearby views gave a person a lot of info and were essential 
to public transport usage.
 

 
 
Regards,

Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
 
Twitter @NeilBarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

URL: - www.talknav.com
e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
On 23 Feb 2011, at 20:49, Amie Slavin wrote:



Wonder, Neil, wil you expand on this for us please?  Workable to what extent, 
would you say?
Thanks.
Amie
 
 
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Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: 23 February 2011 20:06
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps
 
Andy,
 
OVI Maps is not an alternative to Access in terms of a truly accessible GPS 
program, it is though a workable solution to an extent.
 
the issue behind whether or not you'll have to pay for voice guidance is 
dependant on phone model and version of FW that you are running on that phone.
 
thanks.
 

 
 
Regards,

Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
 
Twitter @NeilBarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

URL: - www.talknav.com
e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
On 23 Feb 2011, at 17:08, ANDY COLLINS wrote:




Hi all
 
I understand that I can use OVI maps as a gps solution to Access, on my N82, 
but have also discovered that there is a charge from Nokia to use the speech 
component of the software, so will Ovi maps work just with TALKS, as in 
pedestrian mode under Access, or will I need to pay for the Nokia voicing 
service? -
 
Andy
 
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