I agree with what you say Amie. Regretably this is exactly what happened to me at the time I purchased my first contract phone from Vodafone, it was the N95 8GB. I waqs told that was the only phone that Vodafone did. In fact it was not and I have learned a lot since *smile*. It is a matter of doing research before-hand and I obviously had not done enough! I had no idea of the number of phones that Talks can be put on but I am wiser now in hindsight. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Amie Slavin To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps Neil When I went to buy my phone, by simply walking into the Vodafone shop, they could only offer me one phone, they said, which could run Talks. I've taken that, by reading this list, to mean that I was offered the only Simbion phone they had in stock. It seemed that was my only choice. I know I could, in a fantasy, have simply gone for Ifone and Voiceover, but could I have bought something between the two, and run Talks, please? I'm happy with my phone, except that it was a recon', and I'm concerned that it might not have a great life span. It doesn't do wifi, but I don't much mind; only really want a phone, and to play books and music. Sat' nav' would be great, but not essential. So, I'm not that bothered, but it would have been nice to actually choose a phone,rather than only have one option. Amie From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 24 February 2011 14:03 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps Alex, you were only left with nothing if you made the personal choice to stick with Symbian... Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 24 Feb 2011, at 13:23, Alex Stone wrote: Neil, agreed, but Maps is certainly better than the nothing we were going to be left with at the end of March. Cheers Alex From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 23 February 2011 21:40 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps Amy, Wayfinder Access offered full point to point navigation, an around you look mode, a nearby mode, the ability to do other GPS functions using the speech software on your phone. with OVI you can do point to point, but you cannot learn about what is around you as you travel using nearby or around you views. I would say that where 100% represented a perfect GPS solution for the blind, something like Sendero GPS or Mobile Geo represents say a 90% solution, maybe more. whereas Wayfinder Access was say 40% there, with OVI and speech services from Nuance or Code Factory being only 20 - 25% there. those around you or nearby views gave a person a lot of info and were essential to public transport usage. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 23 Feb 2011, at 20:49, Amie Slavin wrote: Wonder, Neil, wil you expand on this for us please? Workable to what extent, would you say? Thanks. Amie From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 23 February 2011 20:06 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Ovi gps Andy, OVI Maps is not an alternative to Access in terms of a truly accessible GPS program, it is though a workable solution to an extent. the issue behind whether or not you'll have to pay for voice guidance is dependant on phone model and version of FW that you are running on that phone. thanks. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 23 Feb 2011, at 17:08, ANDY COLLINS wrote: Hi all I understand that I can use OVI maps as a gps solution to Access, on my N82, but have also discovered that there is a charge from Nokia to use the speech component of the software, so will Ovi maps work just with TALKS, as in pedestrian mode under Access, or will I need to pay for the Nokia voicing service? - Andy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3460 - Release Date: 02/23/11 11:32:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3464 - Release Date: 02/23/11 19:34:00