So what option do you prefer? From: mattias.lampe@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:32:21 +0800 Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation The load cell itself has an analog output, and there are a number of integrated circuits or modules to amplify and A/D convert the signal. Speed is typically between 10-100 samples per second, which should be sufficient. You are right that bathroom scales are slow, but that’s not due to the load cell itself but rather caused by the signal processing (averaging) in the display unit. You are also right that a microcontroller is sufficient to collect the load cell data. The PC is merely for display/storage/post processing. Mattias From: sugarshot-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sugarshot-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of m bindhammer Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:48 PM To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation Is the communication protocol of a kitchen/bathroom scale load cell analog or digital? 2000N should be the max. what a bathroom scale could measure (approx 200 kg). Sampling rate would be interesting and important too. Most bathroom scales are very slow. However, it is pretty easy to design according electronics/data logger for it. You could do this embedded with a micro controller and SD card, you don't need a PC. Markus From: vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:41:23 +0100 maybe Richard, can design and build a load cell based on websites, and another member of the electronic From: vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:36:17 +0100 I have not just knowledge of electronics, so this work should be made between several members To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation From: monsieurboo@xxxxxxx Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:11:34 -0500 It's been a few years since discussion of these digital-scale load cells was ricocheting around the rocketry forums. Naturally, I started by checking Nakka's site -- he's got a very cool "built from scratch" strain-gage design but I couldn't find one there that starts with a digital scale. But here's a good starting point for what you're talking about. This one hooks up to a PC with a "COM port" USB interface, and the author hand-rolled the electronics. http://www.steeman.be/?p=192 Enjoy! Mark L. DC -----Original Message----- From: vicente Alvero Zambrano <vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: sugarshot <sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 3:54 am Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents Hi Mattias, It would be great if you could you do this. I think the maximum thrust is 2000N, but better than Richard confirm it. Vicente Alvero From: mattias.lampe@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:37:27 +0800 Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents If you want to go even cheaper, load cells can be scavenged from cheap digital kitchen/bathroom scales. It’s not too difficult to hook them up to a computer. I can probably help with the electronics, but not so much with the mechanical part. What would be the maximum force to be measured? Mattias From: sugarshot-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sugarshot-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vicente Alvero Zambrano Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:47 AM To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents Instruments would be a gauge and load cell, right? but this must be commercial. some sets is "cheap". with relative to a support, I think we would have problems. that would be cheap. http://aeroconsystems.com/cart/load-cells/ maybe we can also use the pressure gauge and load cell minisshot rocket. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:30:00 -0600 Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents From: richard.nakka@xxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To design/build the instruments to measure motor thrust and chamber pressure. We would have to do this on a "tight" budget. R. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:18 AM, vicente Alvero Zambrano <vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: What kind of help with the instrumentation?