Richard's not the horn-tooting type, so I'll do it for him. This might be just what you want to start with. http://www.nakka-rocketry.net/hydlc.html Cheers, Mark L. DC -----Original Message----- From: vicente Alvero Zambrano <vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: sugarshot <sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 4:59 pm Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation I've thought about the possibility of using the brake pump of a car. We only need a brake pump and pressure gauge. I think it would be an easy and economical option, the record is visually take place (like pressure). The only "downside" is to calibrate the system. What do you think? From: m.bindhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:48:12 +0800 Is the communication protocol of a kitchen/bathroom scale load cell analog or digital? 2000N should be the max. what a bathroom scale could measure (approx 200 kg). Sampling rate would be interesting and important too. Most bathroom scales are very slow. However, it is pretty easy to design according electronics/data logger for it. You could do this embedded with a micro controller and SD card, you don't need a PC. Markus From: vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:41:23 +0100 maybe Richard, can design and build a load cell based on websites, and another member of the electronic From: vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:36:17 +0100 I have not just knowledge of electronics, so this work should be made between several members To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Digital scale load-cell design / instrumentation From: monsieurboo@xxxxxxx Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:11:34 -0500 It's been a few years since discussion of these digital-scale load cells was ricocheting around the rocketry forums. Naturally, I started by checking Nakka's site -- he's got a very cool "built from scratch" strain-gage design but I couldn't find one there that starts with a digital scale. But here's a good starting point for what you're talking about. This one hooks up to a PC with a "COM port" USB interface, and the author hand-rolled the electronics. http://www.steeman.be/?p=192 Enjoy! Mark L. DC -----Original Message----- From: vicente Alvero Zambrano <vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: sugarshot <sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 3:54 am Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents Hi Mattias, It would be great if you could you do this. I think the maximum thrust is 2000N, but better than Richard confirm it. Vicente Alvero From: mattias.lampe@xxxxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:37:27 +0800 Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents If you want to go even cheaper, load cells can be scavenged from cheap digital kitchen/bathroom scales. It’s not too difficult to hook them up to a computer. I can probably help with the electronics, but not so much with the mechanical part. What would be the maximum force to be measured? Mattias From: sugarshot-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sugarshot-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of vicente Alvero Zambrano Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:47 AM To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents Instruments would be a gauge and load cell, right? but this must be commercial. some sets is "cheap". with relative to a support, I think we would have problems. that would be cheap. http://aeroconsystems.com/cart/load-cells/ maybe we can also use the pressure gauge and load cell minisshot rocket. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:30:00 -0600 Subject: [SS2S-Main] Re: Interesting Motor-Design Documents From: richard.nakka@xxxxxxxxx To: sugarshot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To design/build the instruments to measure motor thrust and chamber pressure. We would have to do this on a "tight" budget. R. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:18 AM, vicente Alvero Zambrano <vicente_alvero_14@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: What kind of help with the instrumentation?