[sparkscoffee] Re: Columbine Victim Asks Obama "Whose Side Are You On?"

  • From: Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
  • To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:20:48 -0500 (EST)

RG
Welcome to the club, didn't know you are so up on relegion?
I thought relegious and non relegious jews voted for Obama
also a few non jews too?
 
Comrade B
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/24/2013 12:11:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
xgeorge@xxxxxxx writes:

Kelly,

Really nice to read something  intelligent.

RG

On 2/24/2013 9:14 AM, Kelly A wrote:
>  John,
>
> I think it primarily comes down to religion.  Of  course, not all Jews 
> in Israel are religious, or even believers, but  there are enough 
> religious people in Israel to effectively control  their government.  
> That is the main reason why Israel has been  lead primarily by 
> conservative governments through it's  history.  One hallmark of the 
> religious is that as a group they  are highly and predictably 
> conservative.  Be it Jews, Muslims,  Evangelicals, or Mormons... the 
> more religiously orthodox, the more  an individual or a group will be 
> socially  conservative.
>
> The religious naturally find comfort in the  prospect of a father 
> figure.  The various sects may have  different names for him but all of 
> these world religions have evolved  to provide the Conservative with 
> emotional comfort in some sort of  intelligent order in the universe.  
> Chaos and chance are  terrifying things to anyone, and so it's just 
> natural that most  people are drawn to coalesce into groups of like 
> minded believers who  together provide reassurance that everything is 
> right in their world,  and that at least in the long run, 'Father' will 
> see to it that we  his children will be safe.
>
> The Jews who voted for Barack Obama  are not the same Jews who would 
> vote for Benji Netinyahu!  You  can rest assured that it was the more 
> liberal, less religious Jews  who voted for President Obama.  The 
> President's supporters are  who are Jewish will be found to be 
> primarily Jews socially, but not  so religious. Remember, it's 
> conservative Americans (mostly  Christian) who most actively defend 
> Israel with a literal religious  zeal.  The most religious take that 
> defense so far as to couch  the very existence of Israel and it's 
> eventual destruction as  prophesied necessities to occur in order that 
> their own religious  delusions may come to pass.
>
> My guess is that many German Jews  of the 1930's simply trusted in 
> their elusive invisible father figure  in the sky to take care of them 
> through the Nazi years.  Of  course that never happens, but it does 
> give the religious comfort...  all the way to the gas chambers and to 
> the ovens.
>
>  Kelly A.
>
>
> > From: schalestock@xxxxxxxx
> >  Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:55:58 +0000
> > To:  sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Columbine  Victim Asks Obama "Whose Side 
> Are You On?"
> >
> >  RR,DR
> >
> > I must say, it has always baffled me how the  Jews, who have suffered 
> so much at the hands of totalitarian  governments,. still continue to 
> support them. It is not as if they  are low information voters. Yet 
> even as recently as the last  election, their demographic voted 
> overwhelmingly for Obama. i. e.  Democrat party line. Seemingly 
> oblivious to (what is now) the  inevitable consequences. One can't help 
> but draw a comparison to the  "good German" Jews in 1930's Germany who 
> either remained silent or  tacitly supported Hitler. But why remains a 
> mystery.
>  >
> > And by the way Stan, not every issue has two sides to it -  
> especially when dealing with good and evil. As Socrates observed,  
> compromising a true principle (good vs evil) is like drinking a  little 
> poison.
> >
> >  JS



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