[SI-LIST] Re: termination for routing 8 SDRAMs to single Processor

  • From: "Dimiter Popoff" <dp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Kenneth W. Egan" <kegan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "" <aavinda12@xxxxxxxxx>, "" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:07:45 +0300

Like I mentioned, he controller was an 8240 (MPC8240 of Motorola, now 
Freescale).
If keeping connections within about an inch or just somewhat more length 
is luck, then I guess I have been lucky.

Dimiter

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-------Original Message-------
> From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: termination for routing 8 SDRAMs to single  
> Processor
> Sent: Aug 11 '05 09:03
> 
>  Dimiter, you may have lucked out on that one.  Repeated, excess overshoot
>  is well demonstrated to shorten the life of components, especially newer
>  low voltage devices.  What was the controller?
>  
>  Steve.
>  At 08:55 AM 8/11/2005 +0300, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
>  >Is about 4 years practically continuous operation good enough?
>  >The design has demonstrated it.
>  >
>  >Dimiter
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>  >-------Original Message-------
>  > > From: Kenneth W. Egan <kegan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > > Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: termination for routing 8 SDRAMs to single
>  > Processor
>  > > Sent: Aug 11 '05 05:21
>  > >
>  > >  The question might not be one of stability, but one of reliability in 
> the
>  > >  long term. Sure, you'll probably meet setup and hold to/from the SDRAM.
>  > >  However, SDRAM typically has some pretty hot drivers (that I've seen,
>  > >  simulated and measured in circuit ) and the real issue is over stressing
>  > >  The input protection on the receiver, i.e. overshoot issues.
>  > >
>  > >  Failure modes in this case may not occur until much later in time.
>  > >
>  > >  KWE
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -----Original Message-----
>  > >  From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>  > >  Behalf Of Dimiter Popoff
>  > >  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:00 PM
>  > >  To: aavinda12@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > >  Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: termination for routing 8 SDRAMs to single
>  > Processor
>  > >
>  > >  I have rooted 8 x8 SDRAMs to an 8240 without any terminations and it
>  > worked
>  > >  remarkably stable. However, I had 64 data bits rather than 32.
>  > >  I had put 4 SDRAM chips on top and 4 on the bottom of the board,
>  > practically
>  > >  next to the CPU, no connectors between.
>  > >
>  > >  Dimiter
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>  > >  -------Original Message-------
>  > >  > From: Aravnda G <aavinda12@xxxxxxxxx>
>  > >  > Subject: [SI-LIST] termination for routing 8 SDRAMs to single
>  > >  > Processor
>  > >  > Sent: Aug 11 '05 03:29
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Hi All,
>  > >  >  I am working with a micro-processor conneted to 8 SDRAM with 12 
> address
>  > >  lines to all SDRAMs and 32 data lines each to two sets of four SDRAMs.
>  > I was
>  > >  wondering if anyone has managed to route this sort of topology without
>  > using
>  > >  terminations. If so please send information on topology used. The IO are
>  > >  lvttl compatible at 3.3V. Any input on routing possibilities is welcome.
>  > >  >
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