In a message dated 3/23/2006 8:46:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sally@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: The kennels may be clean , well run etc but what happens to the puppies when they leave via a semi truck at a young age to be transported all over the country into pet shops where they are put into cages to awaite sale. maybe for months This is wrong- I get sick over hog confinement systems, large dairy farms where the cows are bred only to have the babies taken away immediately , so they produce more milk and the worst of the group the large chicken farms. We attempt to place our dogs in good responsible homes- how can this happen in mass production sally It can't. I see it as the lesser of other evils, though. I get numerous calls from wonderful companion homes looking for puppies. What these folks have to go through to replace a much loved dog is unbelievable in many cases. When they do contact a "reputable breeder", as they have been told to do, they are often told they have to wait, then when the puppies are born, they have to grow out a bit, IF there is something for them they have to select from what the reputable breeder doesn't want, there are contracts will all sorts of stuff, most unenforceable anyway, all things I understand, but put yourself in the place of someone whose arms are empty and whose child is nagging for a new puppy... (Don't believe me? A month ago a bitch puppy of mine went to a lovely home. The family had been waiting since a bitch was bred in August of last year from a well known kennel, the puppies were born, they wanted a bitch but were told they could only have one of the two non-coated bitches IF their bites didn't improve by 3-4 months or they were welcome to a coated puppy at 8 weeks. Huh? They gave up on that particular litter, but they started looking a year before they finally had their arms filled with a bundle of fur, with a correct bite BTW, not that it mattered to these folks, lol. A year, AND a run-around to boot.) IF potential owners don't go that route, there are backyard breeders and puppy mills. Often you'll hear they felt sorry for the puppies and felt they were "rescuing" one. Then of course there are State laws and health guarantees that apply, in most cases, to people who sell over a certain # of puppies/dogs. Here, if the "reputable breeder" (GASP!) or back yard breeder who may fall below the limit sells a problem puppy, what is the recourse for the new puppy buyer? Good will? So, no, a large volume commercial breeder selling without home checks etc., isn't my idea of utopia, far from it. As long as they are clean, well run and the dogs are healthy and vet checked, I do put them above several of the alternatives mentioned above though and I'm pragmatic enough to know that when someone looking for a companion puppy is really looking, they will do whatever they have to do to fill empty arms. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================