In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:33:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, GrnRam415@xxxxxxx writes: What bothers me is that someone with a well-known dog in our Breed would knowingly breed their dog to one of his bitches. I think Laura has hit this bang on. I do not often disagree with Ileana, think Kathy makes sense most of the time, and know Sally runs with concerns. I don't know the impact of this mans market in our breed....I do not think I have seen a lot with his kennel name (whatever it is) or him as a breeder in our show rings. So he has "supplied" the pet people out there, that apparently we all cannot supply. If he wants to get in on more money (god knows why he needs more) what better way than to go to the fancies view of the top handler, top dog, top producer? The guy who is in the spotlight all the time for our breed. Doesn't that sound like the best money making way to go to you? The positive impact approach? He has finished this young bitch - do you think we will see this bitch at national specials level? Maybe.....but think of this. If he does decide to promote and say perhaps have this handler continue to keep her out there, doesn't that look great for his business? Won't the unknowing masses flock even more to the guy with a top dog? And if he does not continue to show her, can you think where the rest of her life will be.....how many litters can he get from his Ch bitch.....and how will she live for the rest of her life? I am with Peggy all the way.....clean "facilities" are not enough. We ALL know that. There has to be love, caring and the whole shebang - otherwise why on earth would anyone here want to condone where this is going. If anyone of you think you can convert this man to care about our breed, you are sitting in the dark with a flashlight looking for answers. I am frightened to see his involvement. Molly Trillia German Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================