How true Kathy - I couldn't have said it better Add to that honesty - only entering a dog under the right judges, knowing that the dog isn't going to finish and being honest with the owner. On 1 Oct 2008, at 8:05, Kathy Tank wrote: I guess I am a bit prejudiced, but there are so many that call themselves handlers, that are runners. The great handlers have a "feel" for each dog, as an INDIVIDUAL, how to show them, what makes them look their best, how to rate speed, leash tension. I see many handlers that handle every dog the same way Doc Zoe Wynsum http://wynsumgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================