Hi Kathy; There was a Lady in a Church we used to go to with a severely handicapped daughter....and Eleanor ( the mother ) followed her dream and developed a huge group of people with varying problems and handicaps to come to Church and she taught them in Sunday school. In a years time, we had people in the Church fighting over who could help in that Sunday School Class as they were the best and happiest class, willing to learn anything and ALWAYS HAPPY They never complained, whined or gossiped and there was never any jealousy or spite. They just smiled and did the best they could and were proud and thrilled with each accomplishment! To watch them take care of each other was amazing. They took care of each other with sweet compassion according to their own level of ability. To watch many of the teenagers in the Church warm up to them and help was a bonus. A beautiful lesson in the human soul........... As Ed said.........God knows who Kaitlyn is. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Tank To: Edwin Hill ; freelist Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THE MENTALLY RETARDED "BREEDING' Thank you Ed, you are a good person...but what was posted about the "mentally retarded breeding ," goes way beyond an OOPSIE...it is an inherent state of mind , it was done willfully and publically.... it was perhaps one of the ugliest things I have ever heard. I have been fighting against this kind of mentality for years....this ignorance , this lack of regard and complete inhumanity. People like this were part of experiments, and "Solutions" and are still abusing the mentally challenged in daycares, hospitals and homes, everyday....it is evil, and nasty...and reflects on people's own mentality . I know of others on this List with disabled children , adult and child alike....I am ASHAMED THAT A JUDGE AND LONG TIME RESPECTED BREEDER IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD SPEW SUCH UGLINESS....BUT NOW WE ALL KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE REALLY IS TO HIS CORE. no Sorry Ed, my Friend...people like Kaitlyn and others that are like her cannot defend themselves against idiots like this....someone has to call BS for them.....I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO ANGRY IN MY LIFE. NOR SO HEARTBROKEN. I INVITE FRED TO COME AND CARE FOR MY DTR FOR A DAY, OR SIT WITH HER, AND LIVE WITH HER.. AND SEE WHAT SHE GOES THROUGH, BEFORE HE EQUATES HER AND SO MANY LIKE HER AS SUBSTANDARD ANIMALS........ MAYBE MS/N SHOULD HAVE BEGUN WITH HIS PARENTS. MY APOLOGIES TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS LIST WHO HAVE ETHICS AND SCRUPLES AND A HEART......BUT THIS WAS JUST TOO DAMN MUCH. Kathy Tank, Mother of Kaitlyn, who is A TINY , FRAGILE MENTALLY RETARDED, AND PHYSICALLY BROKEN LITTLE GIRL AND A BETTER SOUL THAN I COULD EVER HOPE TO BE. On 7/12/07, Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Before this goes too far, like many other issues, I have been blessed like > many others on this list to have met and talked to Kathy's daughter..what I > see when I talk to her is a very charming and engaging young women...I don't > know what others see, and I understand Ms. Tanks anger...but Kathy you know > exactly who your daughter is!...God does too....Ed > > *Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote: > > HERE FRED YOU WANT TO SEE PART OF THE MILLIONS OF POOR CHILDREN THAT ARE > MORE WORTHY THAN YOU OF WHICH YOU SPEAK????? ABOUT LETTING THEM BREED???? > YOU SOUND LIKE YOU WERE AT PART OF THE FINAL SOLUTION...GO LOOK AT THIS > LINK > , SEE MY LITTLE GIRL AND I HOPE YOU AND I HAVE A CHANCE TO "CHAT" AT THE > NATIONAL...SHE IS A BETTER AND MORE COURAGEOUS PERSON THAN YOU, AND THOSE > WITH YOUR VIEWS COULD EVER, EVER HOPE TO BE. GOD HELP YOU. > KATHY TANK > GO SEE HER HERE IF YOU HAVE THE SPINE > http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/victory_candids.htm > AND WE WONDER ABOUT ETHICS???????? WHAT A JOKE > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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