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  • From: Rhisiart Gwilym <Rhisiart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:32:59 +0000

Hi George and Mike,

Thanks for the thoughts.

Yes, Esko's accounts are what made me think that a rigid trike would be fine for what I need. And Wen says that he's had several years riding his, and it works well for him.

I guess the thing with the tilter is that it's really for riders who do a lot of high-speed work, and really -- except for the downhill stuff where I live -- I'm usually tooling along at a quite moderate speed, because that's all I can manage these days. (Doncha just LOVE getting old!)

But when all's said, I still love cycling -- any cycling -- extravagantly. If I'm truthful I guess that one reason I'll go for a simple, quickly-made rigid alternate back end is so that I can get this Python on the road, and start playing with it. But I still have that itch to get to learn the bike form too....

Mike, I've noticed that when I think consciously, "Remember, someone said on the list one time that it helps if you relax before you push off, and several people have mentioned looking well ahead..." then I get to ride furthest before I fall. It really IS a case, apparently, of running in whole new neural paths, isn't it? Learning something completely new. No wonder it feels like the teetering first attempts, as a child, to stay balanced on a normal bike, before you had the pathways for that art established. And then, of course, you had the agility of both mind and body that goes with being a kid. Now......

But I tell you what: if it wasn't for the list, and all the pioneering experience that the way-finders have accumulated and passed on, I would have quit trying by now, believing that it was just not possible. Don't think that's going to happen though. Though keen to get the trike unit finished, I can see that I'll never let the bike back-end alone until I've got that knack too. The whole thing's a fascinating new experience.

Cheers to all, Rh.


This proposal is sensible.  Probably the really hard thing about
learning to ride a Python is having to acquire several new skills, and
unlearn several old skills about upright bikes, all at the same time.
Getting used to centre-steer before having to learn to balance the
Python may break up the experience into more manageable chunks.  Is
there any chance of your borrowing a front-steering low racer, to
practice balancing without centre-steer?

Unless you plan to hurtle around corners at high speed, a tilting
mechanism may be more complication than it is worth.  Does anyone know
anything about the tilting mechanism used in the Piaggio MP3?  It is
described as using a parallelogram linkage to support two steering tubes
- the tubes (half-forks) are visible, but the parallelogram is hidden by
the bodywork.

On a non-tilting Pythonesque trike, see Esko Meriluoto's site: lots of
design detail and lots of information about his experiences with the
prototypes over a long period.



At 01:08 -0500 03/11/2009, mchannon wrote:

When trying to ride your python where are you looking?  It does help with
balance if you can look to the horizon.  I believe that one is more
sensitive to the orientation of the bike by doing so.  Relaxing is also

All the best,

Mike Channon
London, Ontario, Canada

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