Yes I could do it, and I also offered help for some programs I was interested in, but I haven't found programmers for open source programs that were willing to help with coding, but a lot of "if you don't like it, do it yourself" answers.
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To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
Hi, Why not do it for other people? What's wrong with that? Someone might do something for you in return. Jim James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxx To om> programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: cc programmingblind- bounce@freelists. Subject org Re: Next steps on Open Komodo 11/02/2007 02:38 AM Please respond to programmingblind@ freelists.org Well, this is true, but those people are also true. If I don't know C to be able to improve a certain program, it doesn't matter that I can help with translations of the interface, or documentation, because it won't help me.And the programmers that create the open source programs use to say that ifyou don't like it, make your own improvements. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:22 AM Subject: Re: Next steps on Open KomodoHi, One of the things a lot of people can't see is how they can contribute. They get the impression that the only people who are able to contribute are the very technical people. Jim __________ Less time in line at the checkout counter, more time with your lovedones.http://snipurl.com/shopandprofit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo100 percent agreed. Sorry if I came across wrong to you. I feel that the amount of talent on this list alone could help the blind communityinmany ways if many understood what open source software was and how itcanbenefit the blind community as a whole. I recently started a littleopensource email list of my own but it kind of fell by the way side becauseIfound that so many of the blind did not understand what open source software was. Many of them when they downloaded something like Audasity,expected it to be Adobe Audition or Sonar right out of the gate. I am assuming it is because the concept that the source code is available to download, modify and make it work for them is so new and foreign to whatthey have been shown. I was still able to see when Netscape made their browser open source and became Mozilla. I also must admit was not a biguser of the Netscape browser, but have always followed the open source movement with interest. Now when I see companies like FS charging the blind community the prices they do for their software. Be it better software or not I am going to try my best to promote an alternative theycan afford or even get for free. Frankly a majority of screen reader users are like many of the sighted users. What they do with their computer is browse the web, check email and burn an occasional CD. With the open source movement however, a screen reader may only do those now but later has the potential to do things that products like Jaws canonlydream of. Yes, I am talking about NVDA and the Jaws supporters will be up in arms about it all. But the Jaws people need to realize that theirsoftware is too expensive to the masses. Even to people that can affordit. To the people that complain that open source software is crap, turn your computer off now because the software that is allowing you to receive this email, and serves the web to you is also an open source project. Some other bits of software that people may not even realize isopen source is Python, php, My SQL, and even Perl. The list goes on,butthe choice is up to the blind programmers in what they take away from what I have said. JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at http://www.blindcrawler.com/ Also be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon server at http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/ There will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon. Administrator: John Greer Blind Crawler.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Leventhal" <aaronlev@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Next steps on Open KomodoI agree that in general, that many large companies can do more. But I also believe that the community itself can do more for itself. Wouldn't it be great to see more organization and activity from the community itself? Look at what's possible on the net today, witheffortslike Wikipedia, Linux and Mozilla. I say lead by example, and take yourfate into your own hands. Raise the bar for the big companies and show them what accessibility is. 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