No its not he could use it without the data plan if he wants to just do texting and phone. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 7:26 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? Android is probably not up your alley, then. It's going for the computer in your pocket thing. On 07/30/2010 07:24 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote: > seems all of what you mention is web based. > all i want is to have a talking phone with sms texting. > i'll use a laptop for the rest and save $40+ a month. > > Bryan Schulz > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox" <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? > > > I wouldn't say it speaks "all" other menus, but it does seem pretty > close. There are annoying gaps in some popular applications. The > microphone icon on the search bar is not spoken, and neither are other > icons on most other widgets. Some desktop widgets are not accessible > at all. There's not quite enough of the right kind of information > spoken, like what row and column you're on when browsing the desktop. > > However, the progress is very encouraging, and at some point I suspect > blind programmers will get involved and progress will accelerate. > What has to happen first is for Android to become the platform of > choice for the blind. I think that will happen. > > Bill > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alphonso McFadden > <techsales2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> So does this mean it speaks all other menue's? >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox" <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:04 PM >> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? >> >> >> Hi, Bryan. Talkback in Android 2.2 is getting close to usable, but >> not quite there. The main problem remaining is that the browser and >> e-mail applications are not accessible, both of which I think use >> webkit. Work on making it accessible is underway. I think we can >> count on Google to get it where it needs to be, but I can't estimate >> the timeline. >> >> Bill >> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> i called a local at&t wireless store and most of what they sell are the >>> android operating system. >>> will mobile speak be created for this system or will there possibly >>> be a >>> free open source app to make these phones talk? >>> i would like to get an unlocked phone with no monthly fee off ebay >>> for a >>> low >>> talk time charge when needed solution. >>> Bryan Schulz >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible? >>> >>> >>>> I'm relatively new to Android land as well, but from what I've done so >>>> far, yes, it's accessible depending on your experience. >>>> >>>> Android comes with a variety of development tools; there's, as you >>>> mentioned, a plugin for Eclipse to help streamline the development >>>> experience (auto generated project files). >>>> >>>> However, all of this can be done by hand via the Android SDK using >>>> command line tools. One can also specify UI elements within an >>>> AndroidManifest xml file. >>>> >>>> The learning curve isn't too bad as long as you are fairly comfortable >>>> with exploring the technology stack (from the tools, to the SDK, to >>>> the application concepts such as intents, broadcasts, services, etc. >>>> and finally to managing a real device such as flashing, rooting, >>>> etc.). >>>> >>>> Hth. >>>> >>>> On 7/29/10, David Engebretson Jr. <d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I asked the same question a week back or so and didn't get a >>>>> response. >>>>> Maybe we'll need to explore it together. try eyesfree.google.com >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> david >>>>> >>>>> David Engebretson Jr., CTO Peace Weaver Hosting >>>>> Need web hosting? >>>>> Come visit us at PeaceWeaverHosting.com >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Robert Jaquiss" <rjaquiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:13 PM >>>>> Subject: Is Android Programming Accessible? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at a possible project that requires programming for an >>>>>> Android based device. Has anyone done this? 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