RE: Is Android Programming Accessible?

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:23:48 -0400

See I have had an IPhone since the day it was accessible and as soon as
there is a good android phone that has a keyboard and froyo default I am
going to see if I can skip my IPhone across the Ohio.  I know several of my
friends that say Oh I can text just fine on my Iphone and my ITouch then I
sit and watch them.  It's like watching a blind mouse hunt for cheese in a
room full of mouse traps.  I can text on my IPhone and but I don't do it
even 1/4 as much as I did on my nokia because it is ugly and painful.




Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:07 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?

I guess I don't really want to be restritcted to the devices with 
keyboards. The iPhone's onscreen keyboard is usable if, as everyone has 
to, you practice it a bit. Do you know if the situation on Android is 
anywhere near that? Would the Droid X, for instance, be a viable choice 
for the Android functionality you've described, presuming Version 2.2 
could be gotten onto it?

On 07/30/2010 01:15 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
> Yes and the speech input is even unbelievable .  You could even talk to
thee
> thing and text if you want.  The one thing I recommend is you wait till
> there are some new handsets with keyboards.  I have an old hand set but it
> has a keyboard and I have hacked it to have 2.2 on it.  I am waiting
> actually for the Ericson but it won't be out till probably 2011.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:56 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>
> Can it at least manage  contacts,  texts, and other base  phone
> functions adequately? I have to admit that  I'm at this tough
> crossroads. I can get myself a smartphone right now, and one smartphone
> only. I feel I have enough knowledge to not just use Android
> accessibility but to improve on it. That said, I can do all the fun
> smartphone thingies with the iPhone today, right now, this minute. If I
> could have an iPhone  for today and have an Android  to develop on for
> tomorrow, that'd be ideal. But I haven't those types of funds and am a
> poor con artist. *smile* If it can at least do what I've hacked together
> on my present phone though, (that is make and receive calls with caller
> identification,  read  call logs, review and edit contact information,
> and handle SMS), I'd be more likely to just take the plunge with Android
> and let the apps come. I think they will in the end. Finally, what's the
> status of touchscreen input on Android? Last I knew it wasn't nearly as
> easy to  accomplish  eyes free data input through the touchscreen, and
> well, QWERTY keyboards on smartphones are going the way of the dodo.
>
>
> On 07/30/2010 12:42 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
>    
>> I wouldn't say it speaks "all" other menus, but it does seem pretty
>> close.  There are annoying gaps in some popular applications.  The
>> microphone icon on the search bar is not spoken, and neither are other
>> icons on most other widgets.  Some desktop widgets are not accessible
>> at all.  There's not quite enough of the right kind of information
>> spoken, like what row and column you're on when browsing the desktop.
>>
>> However, the progress is very encouraging, and at some point I suspect
>> blind programmers will get involved and progress will accelerate.
>> What has to happen first is for Android to become the platform of
>> choice for the blind.  I think that will happen.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Alphonso McFadden
>> <techsales2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> So does this mean it speaks all other menue's?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox"<waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Bryan.  Talkback in Android 2.2 is getting close to usable, but
>>> not quite there.  The main problem remaining is that the browser and
>>> e-mail applications are not accessible, both of which I think use
>>> webkit.  Work on making it accessible is underway.  I think we can
>>> count on Google to get it where it needs to be, but I can't estimate
>>> the timeline.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> i called a local at&t wireless store and most of what they sell are the
>>>> android operating system.
>>>> will mobile speak be created for this system or will there possibly be
a
>>>> free open source app to make these phones talk?
>>>> i would like to get an unlocked phone with no monthly fee off ebay for
a
>>>> low
>>>> talk time charge when needed solution.
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave"<davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> I'm relatively new to Android land as well, but from what I've done so
>>>>> far, yes, it's accessible depending on your experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Android comes with a variety of development tools; there's, as you
>>>>> mentioned, a plugin for Eclipse to help streamline the development
>>>>> experience (auto generated project files).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, all of this can be done by hand via the Android SDK using
>>>>> command line tools. One can also specify UI elements within an
>>>>> AndroidManifest xml file.
>>>>>
>>>>> The learning curve isn't too bad as long as you are fairly comfortable
>>>>> with exploring the technology stack (from the tools, to the SDK, to
>>>>> the application concepts such as intents, broadcasts, services, etc.
>>>>> and finally to managing a real device such as flashing, rooting,
>>>>> etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Hth.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/29/10, David Engebretson Jr.<d.engebretson@xxxxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> I asked the same question a week back or so and didn't get a
response.
>>>>>> Maybe we'll need to explore it together. try eyesfree.google.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> david
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Robert Jaquiss"<rjaquiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:13 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Is Android Programming Accessible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am looking at a possible project that requires programming for an
>>>>>>> Android based device. Has anyone done this? My research to date
>>>>>>> indicates
>>>>>>> that Java is used with the Eclipse IDE and an Android SDK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
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