Thanks the clarification Mark. This supports my suggestion that the ATSC restrictions on EVSB may not be "enforceable". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Aitken" <maitken@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: [opendtv] > Based on a resent response (letter) from the FCC regarding a specific > matter, the FCC has expressed that on a practical level, if a > Broadcaster uses E-VSB (part of the current ATSC Standard A/53C with > Amendment No. 1 and Corrigendum No. 1: ATSC Digital Television Standard, > Rev. C.) the only concern they would have would be if there was no > "normal" VSB available for minimum content reception. Otherwise, one can > use E-VSB today without an STA (but notice would be appreciated). > There are other promising methods being reviewed inside ATSC activities > that may lend well to helping resolve concerns in some areas of ATSC > performance. Join the ATSC process (or at least participate...you only > need be a member to vote if you have direct and material interest in the > activities.) if you want to know more... > > Manfredi, Albert E wrote: > >>John Shutt wrote: >> >> >> >>>If the FCC adopts ATSC A/53C in it's entirety as law, as >>>they have with A/53B, then yes, it can be enforced. Or >>>at least amendment 1 paragraph 5.6.1 can be enforced: >>> >>>"Limits have been defined for the maximum bitrate in the >>>Enhanced (E-VSB) service. >>> >>>"At all times, the quality of video in the main stream >>>shall be equal to or better than the equivalent program >>>in the Enhanced stream. In the event that the >>>programming is different in the main and Enhanced streams, >>>a higher resolution format is deemed to be higher quality. >>> >>>"Additionally, during premium programming times, the >>>maximum bitrate in the enhanced (EVSB) stream shall be 3 >>>Mbps out of the total 19.4 Mbps channel capacity." >>> >>> >> >>That text, IIRC all of it, was also there in the previous >>candidate standard. It's logical, I think. EVSB is meant to >>be a hierarchical modulation sort of service rather than a >>complete replacement of the 19.3 Mb/s channel. And even >>then, the ATSC seems to think it's okay to cut the capacity >>down to 8.5 or 4.3 Mb/s total, off prime time. >> >>The nice thing about E8-VSB is the way it permits very >>narrow robust channels to be created, taking away as little >>as possible from the wide stream capacity. It gives a lot >>of granularity in that way. On the other hand, it does not >>allow for fine tuning of the robustness of the whole 6 MHz >>band. That could have been done by directly changing the >>FEC used in the band, but such a scheme would not have been >>backward compatible. EVSB had to be layered over the 8-VSB, >>2/3 trellis, and RS[208,188] FEC that was already there. >> >>Anyway, it's still IMO well suited to the task you >>suggested. But here too, some field trials would be nice. >> >>Bert >> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>FreeLists.org >> >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> >> > > -- > > Regards, > Mark A. 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