But even with Freeview numbers both ATSC and Freeview are one way and you still have to add two way broadband access. - Tom Bob Miller wrote: > On Roosevelt Island I get 35 to 50 Mbps, no problem. > > I think that they are thinking of using this very robust TV spectrum > for more than mobile broadband. If you only use it for mobile there > should be enough. From what I read they are talking about making this > wireless spectrum a competitor to fixed fiber. That is ridiculous. > There is an almost infinite amount of spectrum that can be used to > deliver fixed wireless to compete with fixed fiber. > > And the technology is available for some of it. Enough IMO to out > compete fiber in the last mile. > > BTW > http://dvb.org/about_dvb/dvb_worldwide/united_kingdom/ > > "In total over 18 million UK homes use Freeview on at least one TV set > in the home." > > That is 70% of households and about the same percentage have Internet access. > > "In the West Country, which completed its switch to DTT in September > this year, 80% of analogue homes chose Freeview for their main set > provider compared to 12% for BSkyB and 8% for Virgin Media." > > I wonder if the FCC would be even thinking of taking spectrum from > broadcasters if the US had numbers like the UK does. > > Bob Miller > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> FYI, where I live, in a Manhattan apartment house surrounded by other >> Manhattan apartment houses, many people have Internet access via fiber and >> turn it into WiFi. My WiFi problem is not lack of signals but too many. >> It's hard to find a channel clear enough that my SNR is acceptable. >> >> TTFN, >> Mark >> >> >> On 1/6/2010 9:10 PM, Tom Barry wrote: >> >>> If we just ran fiber to every building in the USA so each was a >>> municipal wifi hotspot would we still really have any shortage of >>> spectrum? >>> >>> - Tom >>> >>> >>> dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The Hill >>>> >>>> U.S. NEEDS A CLEAR PICTURE OF WIRELESS >>>> >>>> by Senator John Ensign >>>> January 6, 2010 >>>> >>>> >>>> As the Internet becomes more and more vital to every American’s life, >>>> an >>>> increasing number of people are accessing the Internet via wireless >>>> devices. >>>> >>>> Wireless Internet connectivity today already powers e-book readers, >>>> wireless electricity meters, affordable netbooks, digital cameras, >>>> remotely >>>> controlled home door locks and do-it-all smart phones. Data traffic is >>>> skyrocketing as wireless technology improves and as entrepreneurs come up >>>> with new ways to harness that technology. This trend is only going to >>>> continue with the deployment of 4G networks that will be able to easily >>>> handle high-quality streaming video and other bandwidth-heavy services. >>>> Who >>>> knows what paradigm-shifting and spectrum-hungry devices will be in >>>> consumers’ hands during the next decade? >>>> >>>> Despite wireless broadband becoming more important and more ubiquitous in >>>> Americans’ lives, the United States has no comprehensive, long-term >>>> spectrum policy in place. Industry analysts predict that hundreds of >>>> megahertz of spectrum will be required to meet our nation’s wireless >>>> broadband demand over the next decade, yet the spectrum pipeline >>>> currently >>>> contains far less than that. Rather than rely on the sporadic, ad hoc >>>> efforts the government has used in the past, we need to develop a new >>>> policy framework that will ensure the marketplace has enough spectrum to >>>> meet consumers’ needs while promoting the most efficient and best use >>>> of >>>> that spectrum. >>>> >>>> Historically, it has taken policymakers six to 13 years to free up >>>> spectrum >>>> for auctions, and that does not include how long it takes for spectrum >>>> holders to fully utilize those new holdings. If wireless data traffic is >>>> going to at least double annually for the next few years, as is expected, >>>> Congress cannot wait any longer to begin the process of identifying >>>> spectrum for auction. The first thing we can and should do is create an >>>> inventory of all the spectrum held by industry and government agencies so >>>> policymakers can have a clear picture of the wireless landscape. >>>> >>>> Any effort, however, to allocate more spectrum for wireless broadband >>>> will >>>> be wasted if the spectrum is hoarded, not built out or not put to good >>>> use. >>>> >>>> We should explore market-based solutions that will allow our airwaves to >>>> be >>>> used more efficiently. Much of our nation’s spectrum was allocated with >>>> very narrow and specific restrictions, leading to inefficiencies. We need >>>> more flexible rules that will let the market determine which wireless >>>> technologies and business models thrive, rather than having bureaucrats >>>> and >>>> politicians pick winners and losers. The government should also take >>>> another look at its rules for secondary spectrum markets. >>>> >>>> The last two decades brought us the wonders of the personal computer, >>>> wireless communications and the Internet. I believe this new decade will >>>> see those already powerful technologies merge in ways that will forever >>>> and >>>> profoundly change how we live, but only if the government acts swiftly. >>>> >>>> Congress has a chance right now to work together in a bipartisan manner >>>> to >>>> ensure our country stays at the cutting edge of innovation. With a >>>> strategic and comprehensive spectrum policy in place, high-paying jobs >>>> will >>>> be created, American companies will prosper, and consumers will benefit. >>>> >>>> If we act too slowly, however, the United States may end up watching the >>>> rest of the world sweep past us during the coming mobile revolution. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ensign is the ranking member on the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on >>>> Communications and Technology >>>> >>>> |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> >>>> |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >>> >>> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>> FreeLists.org >>> >>> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >> FreeLists.org >> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >> unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.