Perhaps you do not research it. You are trying -- it seems -- to refute what I said while agreeing with it. I said that NTSC pass through was permissive. You agree with that now, and use that to assert that NTSC must be disabled. John Willkie, who believes that the failure is one of advocacy by the CBA. They apparently didn't discover the issue until after the rules were adopted. The word clueless comes to mind. -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Craig Birkmaier Enviado el: Friday, January 25, 2008 4:36 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: News: DTV Converter Box announcements At 12:04 PM -0800 1/24/08, John Willkie wrote: >LPTVs and Class-A's are secondary services. NTIA appears to be scrambling >on this, but I don't think it's factually correct to assert that NTIA >demanded that analog inputs be disabled; from what I recall, it was >permissive. > Pass Through is permissive NTSC must be disabled. This was not some casual conclusion I came to. I was told this by Greg Herman at the CBA who has had this conversation (actually many conversations) with the NTIA. The new director of the NTIA, Meredith Atwell Baker, apparently did not know that there would still be analog stations on the air after the full power transition. In an interview with B&C published December 29th she said: http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6515730.html B&C: What do viewers need to know about this transition? They need to know that between Jan. 1 and March 31, households can apply for two $40 coupons online at www.dtv2009.gov, that they can apply by phone at 1-888-DTV-2009, and that they can apply by mail. The word to get out now is that there is a big change in television coming on Feb. 18, 2009, and people who have old televisions who receive free over-the-air broadcasting, which means they are not hooked up to cable or satellite or another pay-TV service, have to make a decision. They have three choices. They can buy a new TV that's digital, they can subscribe to cable or satellite or another service, or they can buy a converter box. Otherwise, their television won't work. After she made this statement she learned about the problem and the fact that more than 6000 analog TV stations/repeaters will be on the air after Feb. 17, 2009. As for the specifics of not allowing an NTSC tuner, take a look at the manufacturer specs published by the NTIA: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/DTVmanufacturers.pdf Please note in Technical Appendix 2 the following disqualifying features: Any device or capability which provides for more than simply converting a digital over- the-air television signal (ATSC) for display on an analog television receiver (NTSC), including, but not limited to: - Integrated video display; - Video or Audio recording or playback capability such as VCR, DVD, HDDVD, Blue Ray, etc. You will also find Pass Through in the column labeled Permitted Feature. JOHN Do you really think I write about stuff like this in BE without researching it? :-( Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.