[ncolug] Re: Ugh, I feel pain coming....

  • From: Larry DiGioia <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 05:39:50 -0500

Windows 10 is automatically downloaded (about 3GB) to every machine that is eligible. The exception was domain-joined machines.This has been true since July. It also produced an optional "Windows update" as a method of upgrading. For the past 6 months, non-domain users have received annoying pop-ups to "go ahead and upgrade."

On Monday, the domain-joined computers were no longer excluded, and the "optional" update became "recommended." As for bandwidth, the download happened a long time ago on most computers.

On 02/03/2016 07:55 PM, Mike wrote:

On 02/03/2016 06:42 PM, Kory Pounds wrote:
Also, the correct registry entry to disable auto-updating:

Registry adjustment to avoid OS upgrade
====================================================================
1. Run regedit.exe as Administrator
2. Add registry key and value (installation of Update KB3050265 is required beforehand. Should be there already):
   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\
   Software\
   Policies\
   Microsoft\
   Windows\
   WindowsUpdate
   Add DWORD "DisableOSUpgrade" set to 1



Kory

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Kory Pounds <kory.pounds@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kory.pounds@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    I have Windows 7 Pro and this is what I had to do to remove that
    upgrade file. I already shared this with Mike Bell:

    The actual Windows 10 hidden file, if already secretly
    downloaded. Find first, remove last.
    ==================================================================
    1. Have Explorer set to show hidden files.
    2. Find the Windows 10 hidden upgrade file here:
       C:$Windows.~BT   (or possibly $Windows.~WT) # approx 6GB in size

    REMOVAL OF THE HIDDEN FILE C:$Windows.~BT
    Instructions also found at:
    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/delete-windows-bt-ws-folders-windows-10
    =====================================================================
    1. Run command (cmd.exe) as Administrator
    2. takeown /F C:\$Windows.~BT\* /R /A
    3. icacls C:\$Windows.~BT\*.* /T /grant administrators:F
    4. rmdir /S /Q C:\$Windows.~BT\

    Here's the stuff you need to know and do in-between:
    Steps for avoiding/removing the updates for Windows 10 upgrading,
    data sharing, and others which need avoided.
    ====================================================================
    1. Turn off automatic download and installation of Windows updates;
       Set to check for updates but let me choose whether to download
    and install them.
    2. Do not allow other users to download and install Windows updates.
    3. Uninstall/Do not install, and then hide these updates:
       KB3035583     # Most critical! Installs the Get Windows 10 App
    and displays icon in the lower right.
       KB2592664     # Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7
       KB2976978     # Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 8.1
    and Windows 8
       KB2990214     # Update that enables you to upgrade from
    Windows to a later version of Windows
       KB3022345     # Update for customer experience and diagnostic
    telemetry
       KB3068708     # Update for customer experience and diagnostic
    telemetry (replaces KB3022345)
       KB3075249     # Update that adds telemetry points to
    consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
       KB3080149     # Sends telemetry data to Microsoft
       KB3021917     # Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance
    improvements
       KB3035583     # "An adware/PUA/PUS/PUP for Windows 10 upgrade."
                     # Adds a folder to System32, "GWX", which
    contains 9 files and a folder, "Download".
    4. Note:
       KB3012973     # This is the actual update for upgrading to
    Windows 10 Pro.
                     # Do not download and install. Be sure to hide
    this update.
                     # However, if somehow already installed and
    upgraded to Windows 10, uninstall FIRST before the ones above!!!
                     # Personally considered risky if wanting to
    downgrade back to Windows 7, 8, or 8.1
                     # I would avoid doing this. I am listing this
    update for informational purposes only.


    Thanks guys and be careful. I told Mike that I want to slowly get
    used to using Ubuntu by virtualizing it on my Win 7 pro first,
    learning as much as I can as long as I can make my Win7 Pro last.

    What do you all think?

    Kory Pounds

Kory,

I will need to look into this a bit more. Was under the impression that the 10 upgrade being downloaded as part of the Windows Update was a fairly recent thing. Could be way off here, I really don't follow that closely what seems to be the moving target of Windows 10.

If this is still all that is needed I could use this, possibly...

I certainly don't want to take away the ability for a user to update to 10 if that is their choice. Having it more or less (IMNSHO) force fed to them is more the rub for me. Drivers may be a bigger issue overall, as most of the machine I'm doing end up in the hands of largely inexperienced users.

Mike

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