At 08:25 PM 1/16/06 -0000, you wrote: >As far as I know it can occur even when there is no heat applied, even in >hot and cold water pipes as it is an electro-chemical action. Clif, Al. etc I've checked a couple of US mfgs (or distributors) of "phos-copper" brazing alloys and none of those contain zinc. Copper, phosphoros, and maybe even a bit of silver, but no zinc. However there are now a huge number of suppliers world-wide and there's no telling what some them contain. Regards, Harry MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.