I don't see how information can be discussed without involving experience and purposiveness. One provides information to someone for a purpose. One can give facts, but they may not matter. But if one gives information, isn't there a sense that it matters in some way? It may be a fact that it is raining outside, but one informs someone that it is raining so that they can dress accordingly. A computer may process information, but the computer is functioning according to a purpose. If it functions according to the purpose, it is processing information. If it mis-functions, it is no longer processing information. What distinguishes functioning from mis-functioning is how the information is processed. It may be that the word 'information' has an idiosyncratic meaning in the environment Peter describes, in which case very few of us, myself included, could contribute. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html