In these New Middle Ages the notion of the unconscious and unconscious motivation is down there with Darwinism. If, against all the evidence, you think society celebrates life, then that's what you think. I'm just curious, why do you think there is crime, etc. in the world? Intelligent Design? Malignant Design? Bad choices? Not enough torture? For Lawrence, Joerg answered regarding Westphalia better than I could have done. Thanks, Joerg. Regarding Scotland, they may be culinarily challenged, but they produced David Hume, Adam Smith, and now Niall Ferguson. I think the guy's brilliant. > [Original Message] > From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 9/27/2006 4:20:15 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aaaaaargh > > Andy: ...success is something we do to get approval from > others (read: parents) transferred onto the world at large. > > That may well be the case with some people, but I think the > world is too large and people too varied for all > success-driven people to be pigeonholed as mommy- and > daddy-pleasers. Some people succeed simply because they are > doing what they love. > > > > Andy: Society doesn't celebrate life. > > Sure it does! All the time in ever so many ways! To say > society only celebrates money is to make a gripe into an > axiom. There's that tendency sure, but society is so large. > > This List, for example, is a celebration of life. > Contentious but celebratory. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html