[openbeos] Re: Windows Vista Performance Kludges (that Haiku does not need)
- From: "Thom Holwerda" <slakje@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:19:06 +0100
The problem with Windows is not so much a technical one; don't think the
programmers at Microsoft are any less capable and talented than Apple, open
source, or Haiku coders. Programmers are a rare breed, and all those
companies and open source projects are fishing in the same pool. The
problems do not lie in Microsoft's technical staff; no, they lie in the many
management layers, clogging the development cycle up with lots of red tape.
On to Windows Vista, it is extremely unfair to compare Windows (or OSX for
that matter) to BeOS/Haiku. Yes, Windows is slower than BeOS, but lest we
forget: Windows does about ten million things more than BeOS can. Yes, you
might not notice this in home desktop use, but you surely will when you go
to the corporate setting. I am a long-time BeOS user, so I know the
shortcomings of this wonderful platform.
As an example, take searching. Of course BeFS is extremely powerful and cool
and all that, but it is simply not as advanced as the search in Vista or
Spotlight in OSX. BeFS's search capabilities do not, for instance, extend to
file contents. In other words, Windows and OSX have a lot more to index than
BeFS, hence it uses more resources.
As Axel already pointed out, there is nothing wrong with Windows NT. It is a
highly portable hybrid (I refuse to side with Linus Torvalds that 'hybrid'
is a mere marketing term; it's a term that perfectly well describes kernels
that share similarities with both the muK and monolithic side of the scale)
kernel, which runs on various different architectures. It's inception was
led by Dave Cutler, and I think that's why it is regarded as such a good
piece of software: the project was not led by managers, but by programmers.
Don't get me wrong, I am still a huge fan of 'my' BeOS, and I always will
be, but saying that Vista's relative slowness (relative because it actually
boots in like 12 seconds) compared to BeOS/Haiku is proof that Vista sucks,
is simply, with all due respect, uninformed.
Thom Holwerda
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: openbeos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:openbeos-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Axel Dörfler
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [openbeos] Re: Windows Vista Performance Kludges (that Haiku
> does not need)
>
> "Matt white" <mattwhi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I agree although those features could be helpful, in an OS as well
> > designed
> > as BeOS and subsequently Haiku we simply don't need them. The key in
> > my
> > opinion to an efficient OS is to have it built around a self
> > contained
> > streamlined core, unlike windows which more or less is a bunch or
> > services
> > and process bundled together. The problems with windows are so
> > frequent and
> > deep that there is now way to fix them, you would need to start from
> > the
> > ground up and redesign it.
>
> Your wrong here. The Windows kernel and services are well designed, and
> very well done, too. The kernel is much closer to BeOS in design than
> to any (traditional) Unix. It's just that Windows as a whole is too
> complex, and carries too much legacy around. It's a bloated mess.
> But don't make the mistake of underestimating their technology - there
> are hords of bright minds at Microsoft, and it shows when you're
> looking for evidence. Unfortunately (for them and their users :-)), it
> still doesn't help a lot to make Windows a good OS to use.
>
> Bye,
> Axel.
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