[haiku-development] Re: Banning Barrett
- From: Axel Dörfler <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 18:23:17 +0100
Am 12/03/2019 um 15:23 schrieb Alexander von Gluck IV:
Reviewing these threads, I want to call out that Barrett *has* been
doing better.
Yes, that was my impression as well. However, I am not really following
IRC and Discuss closely these days.
* At the same time, it isn't fair for Barrett to sit on work and
"claim" large subsystems. We all have had to tip-toe around the media
kit and server due to Barrett's "claim".
There is no such thing as a claim. If he claimed it, it doesn't mean a
thing. We don't have a maintainer structure as Linux; we're too small
for that.
Of course, you can say something like "dude, I'm currently rewriting
Tracker, don't bother fixing bugs in there". But you can't be angry if
someone still spends his time fixing those bugs. Haiku is a moving
target, and you cannot stall things like this.
This is a good read i've posted before:
https://www.red-bean.com/fitz/presentations/2007-07-26-OSCON-poisonous-people.pdf
-1 on the ban I personally hate these "ban" talks, it's really an
insulting hammer vs a scalpel. If someone was threatening personal
physical attacks, hate speech, DDoS, or other similar behaviors, I'd
support a Ban. I haven't seen any of this.
Then read that link of yours again :-)
+1 to temporarily removing direct commit access for Barrett. Direct
contributors to our git repos need to be a pillar of our community.
Until Barrett meets this, he needs to work through Gerrit's review
process.
That would just force Barrett to use Gerrit, which he doesn't like for
some reason. Since no one else is really into the media kit currently, I
could imagine having lots of unreviewed patches piling up there.
I can't see how that improves the general discussion style or his mood,
for that matter.
His comments on discuss are really way over the top. No, you must call
people names, and no, you cannot demand from them never to mention you
anywhere. That's really insane in an open source project. Barrett, if
you really want that, you'd have to fork.
It's obvious that Barrett holds a grudge against waddlesplash, and that,
on the other hand, waddlesplash enjoys picking on him a bit (really,
rather playful than mean). I don't think this can be settled
realistically without locking both of them in a room for a couple of
weeks (with computers, of course).
The most unfortunate of all of this is that it drains motivation and joy
of *other* people that actually have enough time to follow Haiku (cf.
poisonous people).
Banning is really a very aggressive way to deal with the problem, but if
there is a chance that we lose Adrien over this, I'd say give him a
railgun if that helps :-)
However, can't we just reprimand him one last time, and, if it's
possible, put him on moderation in the forums? If that doesn't improve
things, I'd be ready to vote for the ban.
Bye,
Axel.
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