[guidedogchat] Re: free run
- From: "J Kimbell" <whitetiger62@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 08:47:57 +0100
Dogs here are all taught recall. We all cover it in training. Wren's recall is
exceptional, but some arent so good, they learn what they can get away with, to
my mind, Labs are the worst culprits!! We were told to use food as an incentive
for the dog to come back but I soon dropped that as Wren is happy to come to me
whether she gets a treat or not, so I dont!!
Julia
----- Original Message -----
From: Louise Johnson
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:17 PM
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
Hi I do agree that the schools should do more off leash training. I was
lucky with Hawk his puppy raiser is a person who has raised a few puppies and
he works with puppies off leash training as a puppy. He works with recall with
them and I have enjoyed it he showed me where to start with it in the house and
playing. If you want to show your dog good ways to play when playing toss you
tell your dog to sit and wait and then toss the toy and make them sit until
they are com and then tell them to go and get the toy and bring it back to you.
If you have a dog like Hawk he has a hard time sitting there but guess what
after a few times doing this the dog is more com and then gets happy to do as
you tell them as I learned with Hawk and he thinks this is a game and recall
can be different games and each dog does react differently to this and I find
if his favorite person is around he has a harder time listening so I have used
this when it is just me and Hawk and everyone is busy and I find we are better
for this.
From Black Hawk
From: guidedogchat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:guidedogchat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Maggie
Sent: February 6, 2014 9:07 AM
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
Hey Doug,
When I got my first dog from TSE(not my first guide dog, but the first from
there), in 2004, they were still trotting out that letter!
And, like you, I haven't had any dead dogs yet, and all of mine have done
free runs when I can find safe places to do it.
Practicing obedience both on and off lead is still a biggie, though. Most
schools over here just don't do enough of it.
Only my opinion, though.
Cait
On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Doug Parisian <eggmann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, I ain't have no dead dogs yet over the past 30 years.
As I've already said, when you have your dog free to have their own space
and body awareness, be sure that:
1. Your fence is solid and secure.
2. Spring load all gates and ensure that they close with a catch to keep
them in the closed position until someone releases the catch.
3. Be outside with your dog.
4. Some may wish to attach a bell to the collar for easier monitoring.
5. If using a dog park, be sure that you have a wise and trustworthy
sighted person.
All the above will go easier if one spends proper and effective time
training off leash.
But hey, all you determined leashers! We used to put a rope on my younger
brother when we went fishing near a heavy waterfall. I've actually met parents
who have their young children on a leash while shopping. Too bad for some that
the parents don't include one of those real cool pinch collars.
Even TSI now encourages off-leash play which they certainly did not do on
my first trip in 1977. Darn, they even hauled out a rather tragic letter from
a student whose dog apparently got loose and was made two-dimensional by a
passing car. They read the same letter on my second and third trips in 1979
and 1989. It was apparently retired on my subsequent trainings.
Being the disobedient sort, I allowed all my dogs free play in controlled
settings and found that it took care of excess energy resulting in more
concentration during work time.
And now, here come the yabuts.
On 06/02/2014 6:51 AM, Don Marr wrote:
we're supposed to have them on leash at all times, guides have been known
to escape fences and get killed, and even if my yard was fenced, would still
keep him or her on a flexie, Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Thacker
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:15 AM
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
Don, why did they tell you that? I'm sure most guide dog providers urge
owners to let their dogs run about occasionally, and just be dogs. It seems
unnecessary to restrict a guide dog by not letting it run.
Vince.
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Message Received: Feb 04 2014, 10:41 PM
From: "Don Marr"
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
I'd never let my dog off leash, we were told never to do it, even
with a fenced in yard, so i don't, he doesn't like to run anyway, Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Nadine Lattimore
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 4:57 PM
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
Would folks here usually go free running with eyes?
N
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014, Vincent Thacker
<vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sorry if this is a repeat, but I can't follow what just happened
with my email. Dur.
Zym doesn't get free runs half often enough, and I don't have
anyone around to assist me with it at the moment.
But all is not lost, because I can let him run around on a long
flexi-lead. It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing. Now he's got the hang
of it, he realises he can run about and sniff and do what dogs do; all except
running off in search of discarded takeaway packages! or malt loaves, wrapping
and all, which allegedly he managed to steal on one occasion. I was ready for
that to be a serious issue, but he hasn't shown any ill-effects.
I know one place where it's pretty safe to let him go, but it's
about 4 miles away, and not on a bus route as far as I know. It's a park well
away from roads, and with enough space to play with his ball or some other toy.
Usually deserted, too, so he can't bother picnickers, kids with footballs or
other dogs, which he might do in more crowded parks. I might try to get to this
place once we've stopped having all these storms, which assuredly doesn't help
anyone. Beautiful day here today, but it's started raining now, and no doubt
won't know when to stop.
Vince.
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Message Received: Feb 04 2014, 11:56 AM
From: "Debbie Palmer"
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
Hi I was told at least once a week for Pearl but due to the
weather and not
having anyone to go with very often she doesn't have that many.
Debbie and Pearl
-- Doug Parisian4-951 Westminster aveWinnipeg MB CanadaR3G
1B71-204-227-8877eggmann@xxxxxxxxx
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