Hey Doug, When I got my first dog from TSE(not my first guide dog, but the first from there), in 2004, they were still trotting out that letter! And, like you, I haven’t had any dead dogs yet, and all of mine have done free runs when I can find safe places to do it. Practicing obedience both on and off lead is still a biggie, though. Most schools over here just don’t do enough of it. Only my opinion, though. Cait On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Doug Parisian <eggmann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, I ain't have no dead dogs yet over the past 30 years. > > As I've already said, when you have your dog free to have their own space and > body awareness, be sure that: > > 1. Your fence is solid and secure. > > 2. Spring load all gates and ensure that they close with a catch to keep > them in the closed position until someone releases the catch. > > 3. Be outside with your dog. > > 4. Some may wish to attach a bell to the collar for easier monitoring. > > 5. If using a dog park, be sure that you have a wise and trustworthy sighted > person. > > All the above will go easier if one spends proper and effective time training > off leash. > > But hey, all you determined leashers! We used to put a rope on my younger > brother when we went fishing near a heavy waterfall. I've actually met > parents who have their young children on a leash while shopping. Too bad for > some that the parents don't include one of those real cool pinch collars. > > Even TSI now encourages off-leash play which they certainly did not do on my > first trip in 1977. Darn, they even hauled out a rather tragic letter from a > student whose dog apparently got loose and was made two-dimensional by a > passing car. They read the same letter on my second and third trips in 1979 > and 1989. It was apparently retired on my subsequent trainings. > > Being the disobedient sort, I allowed all my dogs free play in controlled > settings and found that it took care of excess energy resulting in more > concentration during work time. > > And now, here come the yabuts. > > On 06/02/2014 6:51 AM, Don Marr wrote: >> we're supposed to have them on leash at all times, guides have been known to >> escape fences and get killed, and even if my yard was fenced, would still >> keep him or her on a flexie, Don >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Vincent Thacker >> To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:15 AM >> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run >> >> Don, why did they tell you that? I'm sure most guide dog providers urge >> owners to let their dogs run about occasionally, and just be dogs. It seems >> unnecessary to restrict a guide dog by not letting it run. >> >> Vince. >> >> >> >> >> >> ======================================== >> Message Received: Feb 04 2014, 10:41 PM >> From: "Don Marr" >> To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: >> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run >> >> I'd never let my dog off leash, we were told never to do it, even with a >> fenced in yard, so i don't, he doesn't like to run anyway, Don >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Nadine Lattimore >> >> To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 4:57 PM >> >> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run >> >> >> Would folks here usually go free running with eyes? >> N >> >> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014, Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> Sorry if this is a repeat, but I can't follow what just happened with my >> email. Dur. >> Zym doesn't get free runs half often enough, and I don't have anyone around >> to assist me with it at the moment. >> >> But all is not lost, because I can let him run around on a long flexi-lead. >> It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing. Now he's got the hang of it, >> he realises he can run about and sniff and do what dogs do; all except >> running off in search of discarded takeaway packages! or malt loaves, >> wrapping and all, which allegedly he managed to steal on one occasion. I was >> ready for that to be a serious issue, but he hasn't shown any ill-effects. >> >> I know one place where it's pretty safe to let him go, but it's about 4 >> miles away, and not on a bus route as far as I know. It's a park well away >> from roads, and with enough space to play with his ball or some other toy. >> Usually deserted, too, so he can't bother picnickers, kids with footballs or >> other dogs, which he might do in more crowded parks. I might try to get to >> this place once we've stopped having all these storms, which assuredly >> doesn't help anyone. Beautiful day here today, but it's started raining now, >> and no doubt won't know when to stop. >> >> >> Vince. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ======================================== >> Message Received: Feb 04 2014, 11:56 AM >> From: "Debbie Palmer" >> To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: >> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run >> >> Hi I was told at least once a week for Pearl but due to the weather and not >> having anyone to go with very often she doesn't have that many. >> >> Debbie and Pearl >> >> >> >> > > -- > Doug Parisian > 4-951 Westminster ave > Winnipeg MB Canada > R3G 1B7 > 1-204-227-8877 > eggmann@xxxxxxxxx