[gameprogrammer] Re: game engine?
- From: Jacob Briggs <jacob_briggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:54:31 +1300
Yeah it was. It was misleading enough to mislead me. I mearly pointed
out that the games you mentioned are not open source (in the more
general sense of the term "open source", rather than the GPL sense), and
gave examples of games that have had their source opened.
Ben Kucenski wrote:
>It wasn't misleading.
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>From: "Jacob Briggs" <jacob_briggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:52 PM
>Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: game engine?
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>>Ben Kucenski wrote:
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>>>Yes it does. Considering you're resorting to symantics, I'm guessing
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>>>done.
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>>Resorting to semantics ?? Semantics are the most important thing in a
>>form of communication which is _text_ based. You cant make a misleading
>>statement, then say "I wouldve been right if it wasnt for those pesky
>>semantics. Semantics dont matter, therefor i was right".
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>>google for "define:semantics".
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>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jacob Briggs" <jacob_briggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:29 PM
>>>Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: game engine?
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>>>>This
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>>>>>Quake 3, Half-Life, and other major games have had their source code
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>>>>does not translate to
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>>>>>The entire Quake 3 source will be released eventually
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>>>>>The Half-Life SDK has been out for a long time and includes a lot of
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>>>>source code from the game.
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>>>>http://sourcecode.icarusindie.com:2004/index.php?sortby=title&dir=sourcec
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>ode%2Fhalf-life+sdk%2F
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>>>>>The Half-Life SDK has been out for a long time and includes a lot of
>>>>>source
>>>>>code from the game. The Half-Life 2 SDK is also out now. It's not the
>>>>>entire source but it's enough to complete the assignment.
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>>>>>Same with Quake 3 as I linked to here:
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>>>>http://sourcecode.icarusindie.com:2004/index.php?sortby=title&dir=sourcec
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>ode%2FQuake+3%2F
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>>>>>There are mods for Quake3 which do toonshading and other display
>>>>>modifications.
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>>>>>http://www.adinfo.qc.ca/alex/toonshading.php
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>>>>>If you want to argue I suggest visiting posted links first. The entire
>>>>>Quake 3 source will be released eventually. Id is giving companies
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>>>>>time to recoup licensing costs before GPLing it. There's certainly
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>>>>>available now to complete the assignment.
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>>>>>Ben Kucenski
>>>>>www.icarusindie.com
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>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Jacob Briggs" <jacob_briggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:11 PM
>>>>>Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: game engine?
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>>>>>>>Quake 3, Half-Life, and other major games have had their source code
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>>>>>>No, they dont. id has released quake1 and quake2, the doom's etc...
>>>>>>(well, not doom3). Valve has released nothing.
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