[cryptome] Re: Cryptome is Back: BBC Monitoring Service.
- From: Jeremy Compton <j.compton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:45:09 +1200
Hi Neil, yes it was very intriguing indeed l do recall seeing this clip a
number of times.
Jeremy
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 14:09:02 -0700
From: nl1816a@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Cryptome is Back: BBC Monitoring Service.
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbchttp://buildingwhat.org/buildingwhat-tv-ad/?guid=ON
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:52 PM, Shaun O'Connor
<capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
@Douggie the opening 4 notes of Beethoven 5th symphony correspond
to the Morse code sequence dit dit dit daah as you rightly pointed
out,, that translates to the letter v (v for victory)
On 28/06/2014 16:30, Neal Lamb wrote:
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:23
AM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Glad you raised that. One of the problems I have
in life is about the meaning of words and concepts
and the older I get the more abstruse do the
meanings become...to the point of illusion...or is
it elusion...When I was young I knew the meaning
of everything and the answer to everything...at
least that is what me dad used to say. Now that I
am older I have reached the stage of where I
mistrust everything, but without quite accepting
everything...to paraphrase Oscar Wilde.
Such thoughts of mine apply to the words
democracy, impartiality, independence and concepts
of such ilk. Not that I am the only person to
suffer from such a thing. One hears those words
bandied about every day like they have some kind
of precise and universal meaning, like sliced
bread; when in fact the very opposite is true.
For instance, one could raise the question...in
the wartime of World War 2 the BBC was the only
link that some countries had with information
which was different from that of the Nazi
Propoganda machine. In fact the BBC did even more
than that, it was used as a channel of information
by the government to inform and guide liberation
movements and struggles in occupied territories.
It also fulfilled the role of keeping the British
speaking peoples informed, in a positive way, i.e.
Dunkirk...of how the war was coming along, and how
to make spam, an American food import, which is
rather ubiquitous today. It used music from
Beethoven's 5th Symphony for instance, one of his
dreariest in my view...I can never remember the
meaning of the words, though da da di da, I think
it was in Morse Code and Chanson d'autoumne was
used by Radio Londres as the French called it, for
briefing la Resistance. This use made by the
government of the BBC facilities is, of course to
be expected...if not welcome...in wartime.
see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Londres
for an intro to the subject. And it shows the
close links which there are between government and
a nation's communication systems. When married
to the London Clubs of the time, that little
phrase, "It just won't do, old chap" was very
effective in the world of censoring words or
actions.
Of course no one can broadcast television or
radio, even amateurs, in our society without
having some kind of licence or being
registered...that is not just about keeping tabs
on people or organisations, or censoring content,
but necessary for helping to ensure that
electrical interference doesn't stop people from
watching the BBC... ;-) . This
is of course, called dual or multi-purpose use,
like exporting munitions from the United States,
once even included cryptographic software.
Nowadays it is allowed, if only because
governments export so much of it. Of course such
attempts are never absolute, as there are many
local radio stations which operate around the
country, illegally, providing copyrighted material
for free to our young people, great nashings of
teeth of the copyright industry.
Much as in the same way the UK's first nuclear
plant for power generation at Sellafield which was
opened by our Queen in a much vaunted publicity
stunt in the 1950's actually had the dual purpose
of providing plutonium for our nuclear bomb making
industry. How I, as a child, marvelled at the
idea at the time, almost free and unlimited power
for the nation. I first read about it in the
National Geographic magazine, whilst I was at the
dentist with toothache. I become so absorbed in
it, that it removed the pain. What would we do
without Sellafield today...all those nuclear fish
and large storage tanks leaking chemicals into the
soil and Irish sea. Millions has been spent on
trying to clean it up, and they can't agree on
where to store it. Still, we have renamed the
place...that should help solve the problem.
I have a funny feeling that those words,
democracy, independence and impartiality have all
sorts of meaning to all sorts of people and
organisations and depend so much on context too,
that they are meaningless, certainly to me. It's
a bit like science being objective really, when I
think science has much more to do with faith...
ATB
Dougie.
P.S. Now, would you care to tell me what you mean
by the phrase that
"PRIVACY
IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION"
Not that I disagree with your sentiments, you
understand... :-\
On 28/06/14 00:20, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
well that information Frankly
does not surprise me one iota. oh and on the
question of the BBC being impartial. I question
whether they even know what the word means.
and obviously they serve the governments hidden(?)
agenda beautifully because there have I think been a
number of occasions whereby if everything was
played directly by the book the BBC should have been
stripped of its charter.
<<snip>>
"PRIVACY
IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION"
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PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION
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