[cryptome] Re: Cryptome is Back: BBC Monitoring Service.

  • From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 21:50:51 +0100

@Douggie the opening  4 notes of Beethoven 5th symphony correspond to
the Morse code sequence dit dit dit daah as you rightly pointed out,,
that translates to the letter v (v for victory)
On 28/06/2014 16:30, Neal Lamb wrote:
> http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm
> On Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:23 AM, doug
> <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Shaun,
> Glad you raised that.  One of the problems I have in life is about the
> meaning of words and concepts and the older I get the more abstruse do
> the meanings become...to the point of illusion...or is it
> elusion...When I was young I knew the meaning of everything and the
> answer to everything...at least that is what me dad used to say.  Now
> that I am older I have reached the stage of where I mistrust
> everything, but without quite accepting everything...to paraphrase
> Oscar Wilde.
> Such thoughts of mine apply to the words democracy, impartiality,
> independence and concepts of such ilk.  Not that I am the only person
> to suffer from such a thing.  One hears those words bandied about
> every day like they have some kind of precise and universal meaning,
> like sliced bread; when in fact the very opposite is true.
> For instance, one could raise the question...in the wartime of World
> War 2 the BBC was the only link that some countries had with
> information which was different from that of the Nazi Propoganda
> machine.  In fact the BBC did even more than that, it was used as a
> channel of information by the government to inform and guide
> liberation movements and struggles in occupied territories. It also
> fulfilled the role of keeping the British speaking peoples informed,
> in a positive way, i.e. Dunkirk...of how the war was coming along, and
> how to make spam, an American food import, which is rather ubiquitous
> today.  It used music from Beethoven's 5th Symphony for instance, one
> of his dreariest in my view...I can never remember the meaning of the
> words, though da da di da, I think it was in Morse Code and Chanson
> d'autoumne was used by Radio Londres as the French called it, for
> briefing la Resistance.  This use made by the government of the BBC
> facilities is, of course to be expected...if not welcome...in wartime.
> see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Londres
> for an intro to the subject.  And it shows the close links which there
> are between government and a nation's communication systems.   When
> married to the London Clubs of the time, that little phrase, "It just
> won't do, old chap" was very effective in the world of censoring words
> or actions.
> Of course no one can broadcast television or radio, even amateurs, in
> our society without having some kind of licence or being
> registered...that is not just about keeping tabs on people or
> organisations, or censoring content, but necessary for helping to
> ensure that electrical interference doesn't stop people from watching
> the BBC...;-) .  This is of course, called dual or multi-purpose use,
> like exporting munitions from the United States, once even included
> cryptographic software.  Nowadays it is allowed, if only because
> governments export so much of it.  Of course such attempts are never
> absolute, as there are many local radio stations which operate around
> the country, illegally, providing copyrighted material for free to our
> young people, great nashings of teeth of the copyright industry.
>   Much as in the same way the UK's first nuclear plant for power
> generation at Sellafield which was opened by our Queen in a much
> vaunted publicity stunt in the 1950's actually had the dual purpose of
> providing plutonium for our nuclear bomb making industry.  How I, as a
> child, marvelled at the idea at the time, almost free and unlimited
> power for the nation. I first read about it in the National Geographic
> magazine, whilst I was at the dentist with toothache.  I become so
> absorbed in it, that it removed the pain. What would we do without
> Sellafield today...all those nuclear fish and large storage tanks
> leaking chemicals into the soil and Irish sea.  Millions has been
> spent on trying to clean it up, and they can't agree on where to store
> it.  Still, we have renamed the place...that should help solve the
> problem.
> I have a funny feeling that those words, democracy, independence and
> impartiality have all sorts of meaning to all sorts of people and
> organisations and depend so much on context too, that they are
> meaningless, certainly to me.  It's a bit like science being objective
> really, when I think science has much more to do with faith...
> Dougie.
> P.S. Now, would you care to tell me what you mean by the phrase that
> _*
> Not that I disagree with your sentiments, you understand...:-\
> On 28/06/14 00:20, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> well that information Frankly does not surprise me one iota. oh and on
> the question of the BBC being impartial. I question whether they even
> know what the word means. 
> and obviously they serve the governments hidden(?) agenda beautifully
> because there have I think been a number of occasions whereby  if
> everything was played directly by the book the BBC should have been
> stripped of its charter.
> <<snip>>


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