Re: DRE: CTS community mail

From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:20:39 +0200


On 11 February 2015 at 18:57, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Odd, I was thinking something similar.
> It also had something to do with Khan's performance, and "plugging in"
> but it involved his GF.
>
> I think he's feeling something for sure, but "under the weather"?  Ya
> right.
> Potempkin's gittin your ass Saturday, right Khan?
> On 11 Feb 2015 18:19, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> The loadshedding is affecting Khans performance.
>> He needs to be plugged in to recharge.
>>
>> On 11 February 2015 at 18:14, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> No prob bro, hope you feel better :)
>>> On 11 Feb 2015 17:25, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry guys, was a bit under the weather so I've been sleeping all day.
>>>> Probably too late now, if guys are keen for tomorrow then we can else next
>>>> week wed for sure.
>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 2:54 PM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Khany, is there a sesh tonight?
>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 13:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the first episode of James Joyce's Ulysses before my own
>>>>>> stream of consciousness took over and carried me off to a video game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to
>>>>>>> books.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:47 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's a
>>>>>>> description from Wikipedia:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a dying
>>>>>>> poet (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality would 
>>>>>>> outlive
>>>>>>> his filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life both with
>>>>>>> respect to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian people 
>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>> whole during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. The film
>>>>>>> combines contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and 
>>>>>>> newsreel
>>>>>>> footage. The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to
>>>>>>> black-and-white to Sepia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone>
>>>>>>> then back again to color. The loose flow of visually oneiric images
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has been
>>>>>>> compared to stream of consciousness
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing>
>>>>>>> technique in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of the
>>>>>>> film combined with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film an
>>>>>>> unusual power of expression that has found favour with Russians for 
>>>>>>> whom it
>>>>>>> remains their most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George Clooney
>>>>>>> movie), and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, that was TV4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.
>>>>>>> http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit and
>>>>>>> miss situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some of the
>>>>>>> Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4? Then
>>>>>>> TSS? CCV?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if they
>>>>>>> didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the themes.  
>>>>>>> Good
>>>>>>> if you're on LSD I guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in
>>>>>>> Russian, are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not 
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>> viewing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where they
>>>>>>> follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to play 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers that?).  I
>>>>>>> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I liked Gravity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to
>>>>>>> watching it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just
>>>>>>> checked IMDB. Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a
>>>>>>> non-technical perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that it
>>>>>>> was all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the song 
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> called, but it was more than 5min long.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t
>>>>>>> remember much about the film.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it
>>>>>>> on sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about 
>>>>>>> Gravity
>>>>>>> is that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about the story 
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a
>>>>>>> 17 minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be 
>>>>>>> influenced
>>>>>>> by filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot 
>>>>>>> (the
>>>>>>> stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots 
>>>>>>> (about 1
>>>>>>> to 2 minutes in length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to be
>>>>>>> burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot the 
>>>>>>> camera
>>>>>>> jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to refilm it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to mind
>>>>>>> though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less
>>>>>>> than $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire movie,
>>>>>>> barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long continuous
>>>>>>> sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still great to watch.  
>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>> are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and you can't see the
>>>>>>> camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael Keaton through 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera glides from the
>>>>>>> theatre rafters to the stage below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  for best gimmick in a film
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it a
>>>>>>> low budget B movie?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice
>>>>>>> if it’s done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera work 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a film.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is
>>>>>>> jarring and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that technically
>>>>>>> impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept thinking "I
>>>>>>> can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".  Fantastic
>>>>>>> cinematography.
>>>>>>>
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