Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:14:50 +0200

No prob bro, hope you feel better :)
On 11 Feb 2015 17:25, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Sorry guys, was a bit under the weather so I've been sleeping all day.
> Probably too late now, if guys are keen for tomorrow then we can else next
> week wed for sure.
> On 11 Feb 2015 2:54 PM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> @Khany, is there a sesh tonight?
>> On 11 Feb 2015 13:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I read the first episode of James Joyce's Ulysses before my own stream
>>> of consciousness took over and carried me off to a video game.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to books.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:47 PM
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.
>>>>
>>>> He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's a
>>>> description from Wikipedia:
>>>>
>>>> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a dying
>>>> poet (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality would outlive
>>>> his filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life both with
>>>> respect to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian people as a
>>>> whole during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. The film
>>>> combines contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and newsreel
>>>> footage. The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to
>>>> black-and-white to Sepia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone>
>>>> then back again to color. The loose flow of visually oneiric images
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has been
>>>> compared to stream of consciousness
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing>
>>>> technique in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of the
>>>> film combined with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film an
>>>> unusual power of expression that has found favour with Russians for whom it
>>>> remains their most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
>>>>
>>>> He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George Clooney
>>>> movie), and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep, that was TV4.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.
>>>> http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit and
>>>> miss situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some of the
>>>> Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4? Then
>>>> TSS? CCV?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if they
>>>> didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the themes.  Good
>>>> if you're on LSD I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in Russian,
>>>> are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not easy viewing.
>>>>
>>>> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where they
>>>> follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to play that
>>>> and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers that?).  I
>>>> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>>>>
>>>> I liked Gravity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to
>>>> watching it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just
>>>> checked IMDB. Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a
>>>> non-technical perspective.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that it was
>>>> all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the song was
>>>> called, but it was more than 5min long.
>>>>
>>>> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t
>>>> remember much about the film.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it on
>>>> sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about Gravity is
>>>> that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about the story or
>>>> script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a 17
>>>> minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be influenced by
>>>> filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot (the
>>>> stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots (about 1
>>>> to 2 minutes in length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
>>>>
>>>> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to be
>>>> burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot the camera
>>>> jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to refilm it.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>>>>
>>>> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to mind
>>>> though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less than
>>>> $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
>>>>
>>>> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire movie,
>>>> barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long continuous
>>>> sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still great to watch.  There
>>>> are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and you can't see the
>>>> camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael Keaton through a
>>>> busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera glides from the
>>>> theatre rafters to the stage below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  for best gimmick in a film
>>>>
>>>> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it a low
>>>> budget B movie?
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>>>>
>>>> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>>>>
>>>> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice if
>>>> it’s done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera work in a
>>>> film.
>>>>
>>>> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is
>>>> jarring and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that technically
>>>> impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept thinking "I
>>>> can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".  Fantastic
>>>> cinematography.
>>>>
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