Re: DRE: CTS community mail

From: euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:25:45 +0200
Sorry guys, was a bit under the weather so I've been sleeping all day.
Probably too late now, if guys are keen for tomorrow then we can else next
week wed for sure.
On 11 Feb 2015 2:54 PM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> @Khany, is there a sesh tonight?
> On 11 Feb 2015 13:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I read the first episode of James Joyce's Ulysses before my own stream of
>> consciousness took over and carried me off to a video game.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to books.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:47 PM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.
>>>
>>> He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's a
>>> description from Wikipedia:
>>>
>>> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a dying
>>> poet (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality would outlive
>>> his filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life both with
>>> respect to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian people as a
>>> whole during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. The film
>>> combines contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and newsreel
>>> footage. The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to
>>> black-and-white to Sepia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone> then
>>> back again to color. The loose flow of visually oneiric images
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has been
>>> compared to stream of consciousness
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing>
>>> technique in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of the
>>> film combined with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film an
>>> unusual power of expression that has found favour with Russians for whom it
>>> remains their most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
>>>
>>> He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George Clooney
>>> movie), and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep, that was TV4.
>>>
>>> [image: Image removed by sender.
>>> http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit and miss
>>> situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some of the
>>> Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4? Then TSS?
>>> CCV?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if they
>>> didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the themes.  Good
>>> if you're on LSD I guess.
>>>
>>> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in Russian,
>>> are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not easy viewing.
>>>
>>> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where they
>>> follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to play that
>>> and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers that?).  I
>>> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>>>
>>> I liked Gravity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to
>>> watching it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just
>>> checked IMDB. Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a
>>> non-technical perspective.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that it was
>>> all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the song was
>>> called, but it was more than 5min long.
>>>
>>> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t
>>> remember much about the film.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it on
>>> sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about Gravity is
>>> that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about the story or
>>> script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a 17
>>> minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be influenced by
>>> filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot (the
>>> stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots (about 1
>>> to 2 minutes in length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
>>>
>>> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to be
>>> burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot the camera
>>> jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to refilm it.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>>>
>>> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to mind
>>> though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less than
>>> $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
>>>
>>> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire movie,
>>> barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long continuous
>>> sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still great to watch.  There
>>> are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and you can't see the
>>> camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael Keaton through a
>>> busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera glides from the
>>> theatre rafters to the stage below.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  for best gimmick in a film
>>>
>>> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it a low
>>> budget B movie?
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>>>
>>> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>>>
>>> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice if
>>> it’s done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera work in a
>>> film.
>>>
>>> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is
>>> jarring and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that technically
>>> impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept thinking "I
>>> can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".  Fantastic
>>> cinematography.
>>>
>>>
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