RE: DRE: CTS community mail

From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:10:27 +0000
Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to books.

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Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.

He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's a description 
from Wikipedia:

Mirror unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a dying poet (based 
on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality would outlive his filmmaker son 
by three years) of key moments in his life both with respect to his immediate 
family as well as that of the Russian people as a whole during the tumultuous 
events of the twentieth century. The film combines contemporary scenes with 
childhood memories, dreams, and newsreel footage. The cinematography slips 
unpredictably from color to black-and-white to 
Sepia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone> then back again to color. The 
loose flow of visually oneiric 
images<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has been 
compared to stream of 
consciousness<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing> 
technique in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of the film 
combined with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film an unusual 
power of expression that has found favour with Russians for whom it remains 
their most beloved of Tarkovsky's 
films.[3]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George Clooney movie), and 
Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).

Yep, that was TV4.

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On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit and miss 
situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some of the Tarkovski 
stuff once I have net access back.

Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4? Then TSS? CCV?


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Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if they didn't 
spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the themes.  Good if you're 
on LSD I guess.
Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in Russian, are 
often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not easy viewing.
The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where they follow the 
singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to play that and Safe From 
Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers that?).  I thought you were 
talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
I liked Gravity.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to watching it. 
Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just checked IMDB. Nope. 
Are his films worth watching? I mean from a non-technical perspective.

First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that it was all one 
shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the song was called, but it 
was more than 5min long.
Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t remember 
much about the film.

I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it on sometime 
while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about Gravity is that it is a 
very pretty film. No one seems to care about the story or script. That seems 
like a bit of a fail to me.

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I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a 17 minute 
opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be influenced by filmmakers 
like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot (the stair case fight 
scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots (about 1 to 2 minutes in 
length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to be burned 
down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot the camera jammed and 
the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to refilm it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to mind though. Oh, 
wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?

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Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less than $500k.  
But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire movie, barring 1 
or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long continuous sequence.  It's 
obviously an illusion but it's still great to watch.  There are scenes where 
they film in front of a mirror and you can't see the camera.  There's a seen 
where the camera follows Michael Keaton through a busy square in NYC.  And a 
great scene where the camera glides from the theatre rafters to the stage below.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets 
<lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
for best gimmick in a film

soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it a low budget 
B movie?

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000


Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.



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boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?

"rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors


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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000

I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice if it’s done 
badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera work in a film.

Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is jarring and 
detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.



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Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.



On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama 
<ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that technically impressed by 
a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept thinking "I can't imagine how 
hard it must have been to film this".  Fantastic cinematography.



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